[gecko]Thecadactylus husbandry and paper
Yuri Huta
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298. Bergmann, P.J. and A.P. Russell. (2007a). Systematics and
biogeography of the widespread Neotropical gekkonid genus
Thecadactylus (Squamata), with the description of a new cryptic
species. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 149: 339-370. (pdf)
in case the embedded link gets stripped out, here is the main url and
look for article #298:
http://www.bio.ucalgary.ca/contact/faculty/russbiblio.html
On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Jon & Stacy Boone wrote:
> My experiences mirror Yuri's experiences. And I think he is dead
> on with
> low incubation temps resulting in weaker hatchlings. I've got eggs
> incubating from this species at this very moment. Interestingly,
> for such a
> large species, they only lay single eggs. However, some other
> large New
> World species also lay single eggs, like all Aristelliger species.
> Most
> Thecadactylus will readily consume fruit and especially those
> populations in
> the Caribbean, where specimens have been witnessed gorging on
> suspended
> fruit at night.
>
> Jon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-
> admin@lists.gekkota.com]
> On Behalf Of Yuri Huta
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:41 AM
> To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
> Subject: Re: [gecko]Thecadactylus husbandry and paper
>
> Hi Gekkotan,
>
> I have kept these in the past and got them to breed, lay eggs and
> eventually got a couple of hatchlings. I kept them in a 12" x 12" x
> 18" tall (30cm x 30cm x 45cm tall) Exoterra with a potted Sansevieria
> and a long cork tube. I fed them dusted crickets and waxmoth larvae.
> The female would lay eggs in the potting soil of the Sansevieria. She
> would cover them up quite well and I would have to rot around to find
> them. The Exoterra had a compact fluorescent on top of the screen and
> the temperature would be in the mid to high 70 degrees F, with the
> low dropping to the mid 60 degrees F. If it helps, this was the same
> room I kept poison arrow frogs and a few species of Sphaerodactylus
> and Gonatodes - and all of these did quite well in this setting. The
> Sphaerodactylus, Gonatodes and Dendrobatid frogs had slightly higher
> daytime temperatures though (enclosed aqauriums with glass lids
> helped retain heat better than the screen topped Exoterra).
>
> I did not notice any problems with keeping the male with the female
> full time. I did notice that the hatchlings were rather weak and it
> took work to get them to feed. Perhaps my incubation temperatures
> were too low?
>
> Yuri
>
> On Oct 13, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Gekkotan Gekkotan wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am looking for the article
>> Bianchi, J. 1991. Notes on Captive Breeding of of the Turnip-Tailed
>> Gecko Thecadactylus rapicauda Jour. Int. Gecko Soc. 1 (1): 17-19
>> Does anyone have this and/or any info about husbandry and breeding
>> this species?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Gekkotan
>
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<pre><span class=3D"textbody">298. Bergmann, P.J. and A.P. =
Russell. (2007a). Systematics and biogeography of the =
widespread Neotropical gekkonid genus <em>Thecadactylus</em> (Squamata), =
with the description of a new cryptic species. Zoological Journal =
of the Linnean Society 149: 339-370. (<a =
href=3D"http://www.bio.ucalgary.ca/contact/faculty/pdf/russell/298.pdf">pd=
f</a>)</span></pre><pre>in case the embedded link gets stripped out, =
here is the main url and look for article #298:</pre><pre><a =
href=3D"http://www.bio.ucalgary.ca/contact/faculty/russbiblio.html">http:/=
/www.bio.ucalgary.ca/contact/faculty/russbiblio.html</a>
<br></pre><div><div>On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Jon & Stacy Boone =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">My experiences mirror Yuri's =
experiences.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>And I =
think he is dead on with</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">low =
incubation temps resulting in weaker hatchlings.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>I've got eggs</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">incubating from this species at this very =
moment.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> =
</span>Interestingly, for such a</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">large =
species, they only lay single eggs.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>However, some other large =
New</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">World species also lay single =
eggs, like all Aristelliger species.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Most</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Thecadactylus will readily consume fruit and =
especially those populations in</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the =
Caribbean, where specimens have been witnessed gorging on =
suspended</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">fruit at night.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">Jon</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">-----Original Message-----</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From: =
gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [<a =
href=3D"mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com">mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gek=
kota.com</a>]</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Behalf Of Yuri Huta</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:41 AM</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:gecko@lists.gekkota.com">gecko@lists.gekkota.com</a></div><=
div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: [gecko]Thecadactylus husbandry and =
paper</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Hi Gekkotan,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I have kept these in the past =
and got them to breed, lay eggs and <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">eventually got a couple of hatchlings. I kept them =
in a 12" x 12" x <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">18" tall (30cm x 30cm x 45cm tall) Exoterra with a =
potted Sansevieria <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">and a long cork tube. I fed them dusted crickets and =
waxmoth larvae. <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">The female would lay eggs in the potting soil of the =
Sansevieria. She <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">would cover them up quite well and I would have to =
rot around to find <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">them. The Exoterra had a compact fluorescent on top =
of the screen and <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">the temperature would be in the mid to high 70 =
degrees F, with the <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">low dropping to the mid 60 degrees F. If it helps, =
this was the same <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">room I kept poison arrow frogs and a few species of =
Sphaerodactylus <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">and Gonatodes - and all of these did quite well in =
this setting. The <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Sphaerodactylus, Gonatodes and Dendrobatid frogs had =
slightly higher <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">daytime temperatures though (enclosed aqauriums with =
glass lids <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">helped retain heat better than the screen topped =
Exoterra).</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">I did not notice any problems with keeping the male =
with the female <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">full time. I did notice that the hatchlings were =
rather weak and it <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">took work to get them to feed. Perhaps my incubation =
temperatures <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div=
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">were too low?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yuri</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Oct =
13, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Gekkotan Gekkotan wrote:</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi, I am looking for the =
article</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Bianchi, J. 1991. Notes on =
Captive Breeding of of the Turnip-Tailed <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Gecko Thecadactylus rapicauda Jour. Int. Gecko Soc. =
1 (1): 17-19</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Does anyone have this and/or any =
info about husbandry and breeding <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">this species?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thanks for any help.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">Gekkotan</div> </blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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