[gecko]Question on hatchling Gold Dust Day Gecko having trouble shedding ...

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Aloha, Elizabeth

Mahalo! I did finally manage to get them into a simple html file, so you 
can view them a little more easily at 
http://hale-pohaku.net/gecko_preemie.html. There are lots of photos, so 
I didn't take the time to do thumbnails/enlargements, but if there are 
any you want to see enlargements of I can add them. I do think she has 
damage to some of her fingers & toes. :(

I usually name the day geckos based on their red patterns so that I can 
remember them more easily. Or sometimes we name them based on where they 
like to hang out -- so one of our old timers is named Boxy, since that 
is where he first showed up -- hanging around one of our packing boxes 
when we moved to Hawaii. Based on that, I should rename him "Microwave", 
as that has become his current domain: he is the king of our kitchen and 
the microwave is his throne! Boxy has a long story and I have tons of 
photos of him. He is my "baby" and is a real sweetie. ;)

We are kind of waiting for a name to "come to us" on this little girl. I 
kind of liked the name Mai, which is banana in Hawaiian (pronounced my 
or mah-eye), as that is the first thing I actually saw her eat ... but 
Dennis, my husband, didn't like that one.  My photos label her Preemie, 
but we don't actually call her that, of course, just sweetie or baby or 
darling or honey or all those kinds of things. ;)

I think you are right on the tail skin for sure. I am worried that it is 
shrinking and getting tight on her tail. And I don't think she is able 
to reach the edge of it to work on it herself.  I put a branch in her 
cage as I thought she might actually like to climb on it, but she 
avoided it in preference to climbing on the foliage instead. I haven't 
tried rock, but I will look around for some flat pieces of rock that 
might work, too. We have _lots_ of lava rock on our lot. We also have a 
10-gallon glass aquarium with a screen lid if we need more room for her. 
And I just bought one of those 12x18" Exo-Terra Explorarium screen 
terrariums off eBay, although it would be easy to "lose" her inside it, 
as it is darker than I expected.

I really got a scare yesterday!! I didn't have the flip-top lid on her 
cage latched down yesterday as I was clipping wings on fruit flies and 
putting them in her cage, so was just leaving it closed, but not 
latched. I went to check on her and one of our little mourning geckos 
was inside her cage, probably attracted by either the papaya or the 
fruit flies as she had apparently not seen our little girl who was under 
a leaf!! I nearly died!! I opened the lid and shooed the mourning gecko 
out, and now I am always careful to be sure the lid is latched as well 
as closed!!  I always feed this particular little mourning gecko, but I 
never expected her to crawl _inside_ a cage!!

Which reminds me, I meant to ask you about your three mourning geckos 
you captured on Kauai ... Do you still live in Hawaii or did you move to 
the mainland and take them with you? Are they still living? About how 
long do they live in captivity?  Do all of them get along with each 
other? Do they ever fight?  Did they interact with you a lot? Right now 
I have three of them living in my kitchen in the window sill and my 
orchid pot (they go back and forth).  There is always papaya & water out 
for them, plus I give them mealworms in the orchid pot.  And right now 
they have added fruit flies to their diet. I worry about them getting 
enough bugs in the window, but I guess they must or they wouldn't have 
moved in. I discovered them when I kept hearing this funny little 
"tsk"ing noise and found a little one in the gutter of the lanai window 
next to my laptop. She was the first one I started feeding mealworms to, 
but I think she told everyone else, as we now have lots of them.

Sherron



ElizabethFreer@aol.com wrote:
> Aloha, Sherron ~
>
> I thoroughly enjoyed your e-mails and photos this afternoon!!!  I'll 
> check them out thoroughly at work after Field Day (if it doesn't rain) 
> or at the library.  (GGA is a great resource!!)  You both have come 
> along way with your little Gold Dust gecko.  She looks *so much 
> better* than before.  Has she a name?
>
> I agree with Melody that she will probably need further human 
> assistance shedding that toe skin and her tail skin.  After a short 
> break, I'd advise you to place her in the humidity chamber again 
> perhaps with something rougher than a paper towel to work on her tail 
> and toe.  Do you keep anything a bit rough in her regular cage like a 
> twig, a small rough branch, or rock?  From your photo those areas seem 
> to have retained more than a single shed and may be difficult for her 
> to remove on her own.  Melody suggests peeling the tail skin down from 
> the vent towards the tip if I'm reading her correctly ;-}  But I 
> realize the skin needs loosening first.
>
> Keep us posted,
> Elizabeth
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/5/08 5:15:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> mhartley@ix.netcom.com writes:
>
>> As to the last bits of shedding, she might lose the extra skin on the
>> next shed.  I've only gotten the tail skin off by peeling front to back,
>> like turning a cone inside out.
>
>
>
> *Elizabeth**
> ~~~geckos make my heart sing (and dance)~~~
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Aloha, Elizabeth<br>
<br>
Mahalo! I did finally manage to get them into a simple html file, so
you can view them a little more easily at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hale-pohaku.net/gecko_preemie.html">http://hale-pohaku.net/gecko_preemie.html</a>. There are lots of photos, so
I didn't take the time to do thumbnails/enlargements, but if there are
any you want to see enlargements of I can add them. I do think she has
damage to some of her fingers &amp; toes. :(<br>
<br>
I usually name the day geckos based on their red patterns so that I can
remember them more easily. Or sometimes we name them based on where
they like to hang out -- so one of our old timers is named Boxy, since
that is where he first showed up -- hanging around one of our packing
boxes when we moved to Hawaii. Based on that, I should rename him
"Microwave", as that has become his current domain: he is the king of
our kitchen and the microwave is his throne! Boxy has a long story and
I have tons of photos of him. He is my "baby" and is a real sweetie. ;)<br>
<br>
We are kind of waiting for a name to "come to us" on this little girl.
I kind of liked the name Mai, which is banana in Hawaiian (pronounced
my or mah-eye), as that is the first thing I actually saw her eat ...
but Dennis, my husband, didn't like that one.&nbsp; My photos label her
Preemie, but we don't actually call her that, of course, just sweetie
or baby or darling or honey or all those kinds of things. ;)<br>
<br>
I think you are right on the tail skin for sure. I am worried that it
is shrinking and getting tight on her tail. And I don't think she is
able to reach the edge of it to work on it herself.&nbsp; I put a branch in
her cage as I thought she might actually like to climb on it, but she
avoided it in preference to climbing on the foliage instead. I haven't
tried rock, but I will look around for some flat pieces of rock that
might work, too. We have <u>lots</u> of lava rock on our lot. We also
have a 10-gallon glass aquarium with a screen lid if we need more room
for her. And I just bought one of those 12x18" Exo-Terra Explorarium
screen terrariums off eBay, although it would be easy to "lose" her
inside it, as it is darker than I expected.<br>
<br>
I really got a scare yesterday!! I didn't have the flip-top lid on her
cage latched down yesterday as I was clipping wings on fruit flies and
putting them in her cage, so was just leaving it closed, but not
latched. I went to check on her and one of our little mourning geckos
was inside her cage, probably attracted by either the papaya or the
fruit flies as she had apparently not seen our little girl who was
under a leaf!! I nearly died!! I opened the lid and shooed the mourning
gecko out, and now I am always careful to be sure the lid is latched as
well as closed!!&nbsp; I always feed this particular little mourning gecko,
but I never expected her to crawl <u>inside</u> a cage!! <br>
<br>
Which reminds me, I meant to ask you about your three mourning geckos
you captured on Kauai ... Do you still live in Hawaii or did you move
to the mainland and take them with you? Are they still living? About
how long do they live in captivity?&nbsp; Do all of them get along with each
other? Do they ever fight?&nbsp; Did they interact with you a lot? Right now
I have three of them living in my kitchen in the window sill and my
orchid pot (they go back and forth).&nbsp; There is always papaya &amp;
water out for them, plus I give them mealworms in the orchid pot.&nbsp; And
right now they have added fruit flies to their diet. I worry about them
getting enough bugs in the window, but I guess they must or they
wouldn't have moved in. I discovered them when I kept hearing this
funny little "tsk"ing noise and found a little one in the gutter of the
lanai window next to my laptop. She was the first one I started feeding
mealworms to, but I think she told everyone else, as we now have lots
of them. <br>
<br>
Sherron<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ElizabethFreer@aol.com">ElizabethFreer@aol.com</a> wrote:
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 color="#804000" face="Comic Sans MS" lang="0" size="2">Aloha, Sherron
~
  <br>
  <br>
I thoroughly enjoyed your e-mails and photos this afternoon!!! &nbsp;I'll
check them out thoroughly at work after Field Day (if it doesn't rain)
or at the library. &nbsp;(GGA is a great resource!!) &nbsp;You both have come
along way with your little Gold Dust gecko. &nbsp;She looks <b>so much
better</b> than before. &nbsp;Has she a name?
  <br>
  <br>
I agree with Melody that she will probably need further human
assistance shedding that toe skin and her tail skin. &nbsp;After a short
break, I'd advise you to place her in the humidity chamber again
perhaps with something rougher than a paper towel to work on her tail
and toe. &nbsp;Do you keep anything a bit rough in her regular cage like a
twig, a small rough branch, or rock? &nbsp;From your photo those areas seem
to have retained more than a single shed and may be difficult for her
to remove on her own. &nbsp;Melody suggests peeling the tail skin down from
the vent towards the tip if I'm reading her correctly ;-} &nbsp;But I
realize the skin needs loosening first.
  <br>
  <br>
Keep us posted,
  <br>
Elizabeth
  <br>
  <br>
  <br>
  <br>
In a message dated 6/5/08 5:15:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mhartley@ix.netcom.com">mhartley@ix.netcom.com</a> writes:
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to the last bits of shedding, she might lose the extra skin on the <br>
next shed. &nbsp;I've only gotten the tail skin off by peeling front to
back, <br>
like turning a cone inside out.
    <br>
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