[gecko]Question on hatchling Gold Dust Day Gecko having trouble
shedding "egg skin"
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Aloha, Tracy
What's a death roll?
Your pics are great. We kept thinking that she would eventually shed her
skin -- and we weren't sure she was even going to survive through the
first few days. It has been a surprise each day when I come downstairs
and she is still there, spunky as ever until the last two days. ;)
We are so afraid of "breaking" her, as her arms are about the size of
pencil lead and I have to use a leaf to pick her up. We thought we had
broken her left arm when my husband was trying to soften the skin around
her neck as she didn't use it for a long time after we put her back in,
but we think it must have been the dried skin holding it tight.
We have her "soaking" in the humidity chamber right now -- which she
doesn't like at all -- and she is certainly more limber. She went right
for the wall and keeps trying to crawl up -- unsuccessfully, of course,
since it is wet!
We are really worried, but will try the tweezers again. We really want
her get through this -- she is the spunkiest little day gecko we have seen!
Mahalo,
Sherron
Tracy Vicente wrote:
> Is this going through?
> Lyle, I cc'd this to you because I didnt see it come through on the
> list, though I receive emails from listserv...
> can you please post this? I think it will help this gir.
> Thanks, Tracy
>
> RE: gold dust hatchling:
>
> I had to reply, I had an incident years ago with a rescue grandis and
> the first shed was the issue with this one.
> as much as i was afraid i was killing the poor thing, I was vigilant
> with LOTS of wet paper towels and qtips.
>
> Here are links to the whole story:
> Day one: rescue:
> http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/surprise.jpg
>
> Day 2: much relief and on the way to recovery (note the lid of fruit,
> that is from one of those TINY pill bottles)
> http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/grandisday2_2.jpg
>
> and, this gecko grew to be a full sized adult.... BUT
> http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/DSC00010sm.jpg
>
> (you can see all of Esmeralda's photos at
> http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/ )
>
>
> I literally had to shed her by hand every time, right up until the day
> she passed away 5 years later. It was a labor of love, she would
> squawk and bite, but she wouldnt ever shed on her own, if I left it,
> it would have shortened her life even more. Even though her life was
> short to begin with, it would have been a lot shorter.
>
> So, I think you need to help this little one, get out the qtips and
> paper towels and prepare for the little one to do the death roll a lot.
>
> I hope this helps!
> Tracy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com
> [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Lyle Puente
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:35 PM
> *To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
> *Subject:* Re: [gecko]Question on hatchling Gold Dust Day Gecko
> having trouble shedding "egg skin"
>
> You have a tough job!
> Can you mist her and maybe injure some of the fruit flies to make
> them easier catches?
> You might need to mist her well and try a fine tweezer to get that
> skin off?
>
> Lyle
>
> Lyle Puente
> President
> Global Gecko Association
> http://www.gekkota.org
>
> http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com
> http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned
>
> On Jun 1, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Sherron wrote:
>
> We found a tiny hatchling on May 13 that was a little
> underdeveloped and was still in that grayish skin they have when
> they first come out of the shell. She was dehydrated and has a
> problem with her right leg, but is spunky.
>
> We haven't been able to release her outside like we do the rest of
> the hatchings we find, as her bad leg has kept her from being very
> mobile, but she has been doing pretty well eating tiny bugs &
> aphids I collect for her. She has also shown a real interest in
> the fruit flies around her papaya, but I don't think she has
> managed to catch any yet.
>
> But she started having trouble yesterday and was real cold &
> clammy, so we put a heating pad near her cage to help warm her up.
> It seems to have started her molting her "egg skin", but she has a
> bunch of it around her neck that she can't get off.
>
> Is there anything we can do to help her? She is so tiny we don't
> see how we could try to cut it off! The rest of the skin except
> for around her neck should slough off okay, but the stuff around
> her neck is several layers and is a ring, so it may be another
> matter. :(
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated as she is really a spunky
> little girl.
>
> Mahalo, Sherron
>
> <moz-screenshot.jpg>
>
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> Homepage: http://hale-pohaku.com/sherron - mailto:gecko@hale-pohaku.com
> See our rats: http://hale-pohaku.com/dennis/ratgallery.html
>
>
>
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Aloha, Tracy<br>
<br>
What's a death roll?<br>
<br>
Your pics are great. We kept thinking that she would eventually shed
her skin -- and we weren't sure she was even going to survive through
the first few days. It has been a surprise each day when I come
downstairs and she is still there, spunky as ever until the last two
days. ;)<br>
<br>
We are so afraid of "breaking" her, as her arms are about the size of
pencil lead and I have to use a leaf to pick her up. We thought we had
broken her left arm when my husband was trying to soften the skin
around her neck as she didn't use it for a long time after we put her
back in, but we think it must have been the dried skin holding it tight.<br>
<br>
We have her "soaking" in the humidity chamber right now -- which she
doesn't like at all -- and she is certainly more limber. She went right
for the wall and keeps trying to crawl up -- unsuccessfully, of course,
since it is wet!<br>
<br>
We are really worried, but will try the tweezers again. We really want
her get through this -- she is the spunkiest little day gecko we have
seen! <br>
<br>
Mahalo,<br>
Sherron<br>
<br>
Tracy Vicente wrote:
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008">Is this going through?</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008">Lyle, I cc'd this to you because I didnt
see it come through on the list, though I receive emails from
listserv...</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008">can you please post this? I think it will
help this gir.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008">Thanks, Tracy</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008">RE: gold dust hatchling:</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="529434503-02062008">
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">I had to reply, I had an incident years ago with
a rescue grandis and the first shed was the issue with this one.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">as much as i was afraid i was killing the poor
thing, I was vigilant with LOTS of wet paper towels and qtips.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Here are links to the whole story:</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Day one: rescue:</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/surprise.jpg">http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/surprise.jpg</a></font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Day 2: much relief and on the way to recovery
(note the lid of fruit, that is from one of those TINY pill bottles)</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/grandisday2_2.jpg">http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/grandisday2_2.jpg</a></font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">and, this gecko grew to be a full sized
adult.... BUT</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/DSC00010sm.jpg">http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/DSC00010sm.jpg</a></font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">(you can see all of Esmeralda's photos at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/">http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/</a>
)</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span><span
class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">I literally had to shed her by hand every time,
right up until the day she passed away 5 years later. It was a labor of
love, she would squawk and bite, but she wouldnt ever shed on her own,
if I left it, it would have shortened her life even more. Even though
her life was short to begin with, it would have been a lot shorter.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">So, I think you need to help this little one,
get out the qtips and paper towels and prepare for the little one to do
the death roll a lot. </font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">I hope this helps!</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Tracy</font></span></div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
<div><span class="404075423-01062008"></span> </div>
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lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com">gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com">mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lyle Puente<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gecko@lists.gekkota.com">gecko@lists.gekkota.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gecko]Question on hatchling Gold Dust Day
Gecko having trouble shedding "egg skin"<br>
<br>
</font></div>
You have a tough job!
<div>Can you mist her and maybe injure some of the fruit flies to
make them easier catches?</div>
<div>You might need to mist her well and try a fine tweezer to get
that skin off?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Lyle</div>
<div><br>
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<div>On Jun 1, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Sherron wrote:</div>
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<big>We found a tiny hatchling on May 13 that was a little
underdeveloped and was still in that grayish skin they have when they
first come out of the shell. She was dehydrated and has a problem with
her right leg, but is spunky.<br>
<br>
We haven't been able to release her outside like we do the rest of the
hatchings we find, as her bad leg has kept her from being very mobile,
but she has been doing pretty well eating tiny bugs & aphids I
collect for her. She has also shown a real interest in the fruit flies
around her papaya, but I don't think she has managed to catch any yet.<br>
<br>
But she started having trouble yesterday and was real cold &
clammy, so we put a heating pad near her cage to help warm her up. It
seems to have started her molting her "egg skin", but she has a bunch
of it around her neck that she can't get off. <br>
<br>
Is there anything we can do to help her? She is so tiny we don't see
how we could try to cut it off! The rest of the skin except for around
her neck should slough off okay, but the stuff around her neck is
several layers and is a ring, so it may be another matter. :(<br>
<br>
Any help would be greatly appreciated as she is really a spunky little
girl. <br>
<br>
Mahalo, Sherron</big> <br>
<br>
<span><moz-screenshot.jpg></span><br>
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Gecko aka Sherron, Kailua Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island of Hawaii)
Homepage: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://hale-pohaku.com/sherron">http://hale-pohaku.com/sherron</a> - <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:gecko@hale-pohaku.com">mailto:gecko@hale-pohaku.com</a>
See our rats: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://hale-pohaku.com/dennis/ratgallery.html">http://hale-pohaku.com/dennis/ratgallery.html</a></pre>
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Gecko aka Sherron, Kailua Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island of Hawaii)
Homepage: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hale-pohaku.com/sherron">http://hale-pohaku.com/sherron</a> - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gecko@hale-pohaku.com">mailto:gecko@hale-pohaku.com</a>
See our rats: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hale-pohaku.com/dennis/ratgallery.html">http://hale-pohaku.com/dennis/ratgallery.html</a></pre>
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