[gecko]Question on hatchling Gold Dust Day Gecko having trouble
shedding "egg skin"
Lyle Puente
gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:27:57 -0400
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went though Tracy
thanks
Lyle
On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Tracy Vicente wrote:
Is this going through?
Lyle, I cc'd this to you because I didnt see it come through on the
list, though I receive emails from listserv...
can you please post this? I think it will help this gir.
Thanks, Tracy
RE: gold dust hatchling:
I had to reply, I had an incident years ago with a rescue grandis and
the first shed was the issue with this one.
as much as i was afraid i was killing the poor thing, I was vigilant
with LOTS of wet paper towels and qtips.
Here are links to the whole story:
Day one: rescue:
http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/surprise.jpg
Day 2: much relief and on the way to recovery (note the lid of fruit,
that is from one of those TINY pill bottles)
http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/grandisday2_2.jpg
and, this gecko grew to be a full sized adult.... BUT
http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/DSC00010sm.jpg
(you can see all of Esmeralda's photos at http://www.gexfiles.com/
album/grandisbaby/ )
I literally had to shed her by hand every time, right up until the
day she passed away 5 years later. It was a labor of love, she would
squawk and bite, but she wouldnt ever shed on her own, if I left it,
it would have shortened her life even more. Even though her life was
short to begin with, it would have been a lot shorter.
So, I think you need to help this little one, get out the qtips and
paper towels and prepare for the little one to do the death roll a lot.
I hope this helps!
Tracy
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From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-
admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Puente
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:35 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]Question on hatchling Gold Dust Day Gecko having
trouble shedding "egg skin"
You have a tough job!
Can you mist her and maybe injure some of the fruit flies to make
them easier catches?
You might need to mist her well and try a fine tweezer to get that
skin off?
Lyle
Lyle Puente
President
Global Gecko Association
http://www.gekkota.org
http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com
http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned
On Jun 1, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Sherron wrote:
We found a tiny hatchling on May 13 that was a little underdeveloped
and was still in that grayish skin they have when they first come out
of the shell. She was dehydrated and has a problem with her right
leg, but is spunky.
We haven't been able to release her outside like we do the rest of
the hatchings we find, as her bad leg has kept her from being very
mobile, but she has been doing pretty well eating tiny bugs & aphids
I collect for her. She has also shown a real interest in the fruit
flies around her papaya, but I don't think she has managed to catch
any yet.
But she started having trouble yesterday and was real cold & clammy,
so we put a heating pad near her cage to help warm her up. It seems
to have started her molting her "egg skin", but she has a bunch of it
around her neck that she can't get off.
Is there anything we can do to help her? She is so tiny we don't see
how we could try to cut it off! The rest of the skin except for
around her neck should slough off okay, but the stuff around her neck
is several layers and is a ring, so it may be another matter. :(
Any help would be greatly appreciated as she is really a spunky
little girl.
Mahalo, Sherron
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went though =
Tracy<div>thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Lyle</div><div><br><div><div>On =
Jun 1, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Tracy Vicente wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <div><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"529434503-02062008">Is this =
going through?</span></font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"529434503-02062008">Lyle, I =
cc'd this to you because I didnt see it come through on the list, though =
I receive emails from listserv...</span></font></div> <div><font =
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span =
class=3D"529434503-02062008">can you please post this? I think it will =
help this gir.</span></font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"529434503-02062008">Thanks, =
Tracy</span></font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2"><span class=3D"529434503-02062008"></span></font>=A0</div> =
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span =
class=3D"529434503-02062008">RE: gold dust =
hatchling:</span></font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff"=
size=3D"2"><span class=3D"529434503-02062008"></span></font>=A0</div> =
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span =
class=3D"529434503-02062008"> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">I had to reply, I had an incident years ago with a rescue =
grandis and the first shed was the issue with this =
one.</font></span></div> <div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font =
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">as much as i was afraid i =
was killing the poor thing, I was vigilant with LOTS of wet paper towels =
and qtips.</font></span></div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">Here are links to the whole story:</font></span></div> =
<div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">Day one: rescue:</font></span></div> =
<div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><a =
href=3D"http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/surprise.jpg">http://www=
.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/surprise.jpg</a></font></span></div> =
<div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">Day 2: much relief and on the way to recovery (note the lid =
of fruit, that is from one of those TINY pill =
bottles)</font></span></div> <div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font=
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><a =
href=3D"http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/grandisday2_2.jpg">http:=
//www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/grandisday2_2.jpg</a></font></span></=
div> <div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">and, this gecko grew to be a full sized adult.... =
BUT</font></span></div> <div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font =
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><a =
href=3D"http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/DSC00010sm.jpg">http://w=
ww.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/DSC00010sm.jpg</a></font></span></div> =
<div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">(you can see all of Esmeralda's photos at=A0=A0 =A0<a =
href=3D"http://www.gexfiles.com/album/grandisbaby/">http://www.gexfiles.co=
m/album/grandisbaby/</a>=A0=A0=A0 )</font></span></div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2"></font></span><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font =
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> =
<div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">I literally had to shed her by hand every =
time, right up until the day she passed away 5 years later. It was a =
labor of love, she would squawk and bite, but she wouldnt ever shed on =
her own, if I left it, it would have shortened her life even more. Even =
though her life was short to begin with, it would have been a lot =
shorter.</font></span></div> <div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font=
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> =
<div><span class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">So, I think you need to help this little =
one, get out the qtips and paper towels and prepare for the little one =
to do the death roll a lot. </font></span></div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">I hope this helps!</font></span></div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">Tracy</font></span></div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div> <div><span =
class=3D"404075423-01062008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2"></font></span>=A0</div></span></font></div> <blockquote =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div></div> <div =
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align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Original =
Message-----<br><b>From:</b> gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [<a =
href=3D"mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com">mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gek=
kota.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lyle Puente<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
June 01, 2008 9:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:gecko@lists.gekkota.com">gecko@lists.gekkota.com</a><br><b>=
Subject:</b> Re: [gecko]Question on hatchling Gold Dust Day Gecko =
having trouble shedding "egg skin"<br><br></font></div>You have a =
tough job! <div>Can you mist her and maybe injure some of the fruit =
flies to make them easier catches?</div> <div>You might need to mist =
her well and try a fine tweezer to get that skin off?</div> =
<div><br></div> <div>Lyle</div> <div><br></div> <div> <div =
style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> <div> <div>Lyle =
Puente</div> <div>President</div> <div>Global Gecko Association</div> =
<div><a href=3D"http://www.gekkota.org">http://www.gekkota.org</a></div> =
<div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div><a =
href=3D"http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com">http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com</=
a></div> <div><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned">http://www.myspace.com/My=
BrothersBanned</a></div> <div><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></span></div> <div> =
<div>On Jun 1, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Sherron wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><big>We found a tiny hatchling on =
May 13 that was a little underdeveloped and was still in that grayish =
skin they have when they first come out of the shell. She was =
dehydrated and has a problem with her right leg, but is =
spunky.<br><br>We haven't been able to release her outside like we do =
the rest of the hatchings we find, as her bad leg has kept her from =
being very mobile, but she has been doing pretty well eating tiny bugs =
& aphids I collect for her. She has also shown a real interest in =
the fruit flies around her papaya, but I don't think she has managed =
to catch any yet.<br><br>But she started having trouble yesterday and =
was real cold & clammy, so we put a heating pad near her cage to =
help warm her up. It seems to have started her molting her "egg skin", =
but she has a bunch of it around her neck that she can't get off. =
<br><br>Is there anything we can do to help her? She is so tiny we =
don't see how we could try to cut it off! The rest of the skin except =
for around her neck should slough off okay, but the stuff around her =
neck is several layers and is a ring, so it may be another matter. =
:(<br><br>Any help would be greatly appreciated as she is really a =
spunky little girl. <br><br>Mahalo, Sherron</big> =
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