From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sat Jul 19 23:17:15 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Diane Rudesal) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:17:15 -0700 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms Message-ID: <1216505835.19790.1264349735@webmail.messagingengine.com> My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all know, there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that gutloading is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they need to be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the Phoenix Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? Thanks for your help. Diane -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 20 06:06:37 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (gecko@lists.gekkota.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms Message-ID: -------------------------------1216530397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi =0), I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. I hope this is helpful. In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, leolover@petml.com writes: My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all know, there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that gutloading is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they need to be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the Phoenix Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? Thanks for your help. Diane -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service _______________________________________________ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) -------------------------------1216530397 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi =3D0),
I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have
fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them.
I didn't gut load them but I did dust them.  
Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems.
 
I hope this is helpful.
 
 
 
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-------------------------------1216530397-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 20 17:20:32 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Diane Rudesal) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:20:32 -0700 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then. On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said: > Hi =0), > I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have > fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. > I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. > Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. > > I hope this is helpful. > > > > > In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > leolover@petml.com writes: > > My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all know, > there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had > anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If > so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or > large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that gutloading > is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they need to > be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my > mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the Phoenix > Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? > > Thanks for your help. > > Diane > -- > Diane Rudesal > leolover@petml.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 20 17:54:51 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Lyle Puente) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms In-Reply-To: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <461CCCFB-716D-4AA1-83D4-9CDA5A30CC7E@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_bR0YJN665OPftsK3506ZhQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high percentage of crickets. I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are white and very soft. If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a bowl or pinch the hind legs. Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn worms ) Lyle Lyle Puente President Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.org http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then. On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said: > Hi =0), > I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have > fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. > I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. > Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. > > I hope this is helpful. > > > > > In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > leolover@petml.com writes: > > My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all > know, > there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had > anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If > so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or > large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that > gutloading > is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they > need to > be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my > mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the > Phoenix > Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? > > Thanks for your help. > > Diane > -- > Diane Rudesal > leolover@petml.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail _______________________________________________ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko --Boundary_(ID_bR0YJN665OPftsK3506ZhQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high = percentage of crickets.
I keep bins of super worms and pick out the = fresh sheds. They are white and very soft.
If they have = trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a bowl or pinch = the hind legs.
Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath = worms ( tomato horn worms = )
Lyle

=

On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal = wrote:

Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to = give them a try then.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 = EDT, PISHET@aol.com said:
=
Hi =3D0),
I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I = have=A0
fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them.=A0
I didn't = gut load them but I did dust them.=A0= =A0
Evil Neo was happy and I had no = problems.=A0

I hope = this is helpful.




In a message dated 7/19/2008 = 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =A0

My leos=A0 = are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all = know,
there is a=A0 national shortage of them = right now and none can be had
anywhere in = stores=A0 or online. Are = Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If
so, what size = would an=A0 adult leopard = gecko need (small, medium or
large)? Also, = the website=A0 (www.phoenixworm.com) states that = gutloading
is not necessary with them = --=A0 is this accurate? And = would they need to
be dusted with the Repashy = Calcium=A0 + ICB, as i've = been doing with my
mealworms, or would that = give them an OD=A0 of = calcium, since the Phoenix
Worms are = higher in calcium (again, according=A0= to the website)?

Thanks for your help.

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= --Boundary_(ID_bR0YJN665OPftsK3506ZhQ)-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 20 18:28:16 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Sven Vogler) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:28:16 +0100 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms Message-ID: <20080720172816.E27B7233D7@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_121657489669610 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry folks, but what the heck are "phoenixworms" and "superworms"??? I can imagine the latter to be Zophobas, but these trivial names just gimme headaches.... :-) Greetings from Hamburg Sven Vogler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle Puente" To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: Re: [gecko]Phoenix worms Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400 You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high percentage of crickets. I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are white and very soft.If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a bowl or pinch the hind legs.Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn worms )Lyle Lyle PuentePresidentGlobal Gecko Associationhttp://www.gekkota.org http://www.MyBrothersBanned.comhttp://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then. On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said: Hi =3D0),I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. I hope this is helpful. In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, leolover@petml.com writes: My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all know,there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be hadanywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? Ifso, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium orlarge)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that gutloadingis not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they need tobe dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with mymealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the PhoenixWorms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? Thanks for your help. Diane-- Diane Rudesalleolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service _______________________________________________Global Gecko Associationhttp://www.gekkota.comClassifiedshttp://www.gekkota.com/cgi-= gekkota/classifieds.cgigecko mailing listgecko@lists.gekkota.comhttp://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/lis= tinfo/gecko **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantas= yaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000020) -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail _______________________________________________Global Gecko Associationhttp://www.gekkota.comClassifiedshttp://www.gekkota.com/cgi-ge= kkota/classifieds.cgigecko mailing listgecko@lists.gekkota.comhttp://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listi= nfo/gec --=20 _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze --_----------=_121657489669610 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Sorry folks,

 

but what the heck are "phoenixworms" and "superworms"???

I can imagine the latter to be Zophobas, but these trivial names just gi= mme headaches....
:-)

 

Greetings from Hamburg

 

Sven  Vogler


 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lyle Puente"
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]Ph= oenix worms
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400

You can also tr= y using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high percentage of crickets.
I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are whit= e and very soft.
If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a = bowl or pinch the hind legs.
Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn wor= ms )
Lyle



On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote:

Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to= give them a try then.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said:
Hi =3D0),
I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I= have 
fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. 
I didn't gut load them but I did dust them.   
Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. 

I hope this is helpful.




In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Easter= n Daylight Time,  

My leos = ; are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all know,
there is a&n= bsp; national shortage of them right now and none can be had
anywhere in stores  or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If
so, what size would an  adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or
large)? Also, the website  (www.pho= enixworm.com) states that gutloading
is not necessary with them --  is this accurate? And would they need to
be dusted with the Repashy Calcium  + ICB, as i've been doing with my
mealworms, or would that give them an OD  of calcium, since the Phoenix
Worms are higher in calcium (again, according  to the website)?

Thanks for your help.

Diane
-- 
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Powered by Outblaze --_----------=_121657489669610-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 20 18:52:52 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Lyle Puente) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:52:52 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms In-Reply-To: <20080720172816.E27B7233D7@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080720172816.E27B7233D7@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6C801792-453F-4B40-9CFE-E0E992EDD0A5@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_bvyaXT3ZOlHqr0etu2LCmg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hahah Good call Sven, yes, super worms ( darkling Beetle larve ) are the USA trade and common names for Zoophbas Morio. Pheonix worms are a trade name for an undisclosed fly species. They are sold in maggot form. The word maggot however is often considered repulsive and few willingly will exchange cash for them. Pheonix sounds Harry Potterish though and they sell well. Trivial names, but required for retail purchase as dealers often have no clue as to what they sell Lyle Lyle Puente President Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.org http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned On Jul 20, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Sven Vogler wrote: Sorry folks, but what the heck are "phoenixworms" and "superworms"??? I can imagine the latter to be Zophobas, but these trivial names just gimme headaches.... :-) Greetings from Hamburg Sven Vogler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle Puente" To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: Re: [gecko]Phoenix worms Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400 You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high percentage of crickets. I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are white and very soft. If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a bowl or pinch the hind legs. Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn worms ) Lyle Lyle Puente President Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.org http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then. On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said: > Hi =0), > I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have > fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. > I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. > Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. > > I hope this is helpful. > > > > > In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > leolover@petml.com writes: > > My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all > know, > there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had > anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If > so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or > large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that > gutloading > is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they > need to > be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my > mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the > Phoenix > Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? > > Thanks for your help. > > Diane > -- > Diane Rudesal > leolover@petml.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail _______________________________________________ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gec -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze --Boundary_(ID_bvyaXT3ZOlHqr0etu2LCmg) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable hahah Good call Sven,

yes, super worms ( darkling = Beetle larve ) are the USA trade and common names for Zoophbas = Morio.
Pheonix worms are a trade name for an undisclosed fly = species.
They are sold in maggot form. The word maggot however = is often considered repulsive and few willingly will exchange cash for = them.
Pheonix sounds Harry Potterish though and they sell = well.
Trivial names, but required for retail purchase as = dealers often have no clue as to what they = sell

Lyle

http://www.gekkota.org





On Jul 20, = 2008, at 1:28 PM, Sven Vogler wrote:

Sorry folks,

=A0

but what the heck are = "phoenixworms" and "superworms"???

I can imagine the latter to be = Zophobas, but these trivial names just gimme = headaches....
:-)

=A0

Greetings from = Hamburg

=A0

Sven=A0 = Vogler


=A0

----- Original Message = -----
From: "Lyle Puente"
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Sub= ject: Re: [gecko]Phoenix worms
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 = -0400

You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed = mine a high percentage of crickets.
I keep bins of super worms and = pick out the fresh sheds. They are white and very soft.
If = they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a bowl = or pinch the hind legs.
Some of mine like silk worms, few = like goliath worms ( tomato horn worms )
Lyle
=



=
On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote:

Thanks = very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then.
=

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said:
=
Hi =3D0),
=
I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too = but I have=A0
fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them.=A0
I didn't gut load them but I did dust them.=A0 =A0
Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems.=A0

I hope this is = helpful.

=



In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, = =A0
=

My leos=A0 = are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all = know,
there is a=A0 national shortage of them = right now and none can be had
anywhere = in stores=A0 or online. Are = Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If
so, = what size would an=A0 adult = leopard gecko need (small, medium or
large)? Also, the website=A0 = (www.phoenixworm.com) = states that gutloading
is not necessary = with them --=A0 is this = accurate? And would they need to
be = dusted with the Repashy Calcium=A0 = + ICB, as i've been doing with my
mealworms, or would that give them an OD=A0 of calcium, since the = Phoenix
Worms are higher in calcium = (again, according=A0 to the = website)?

=
Thanks for your help.

Diane
--=A0
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= --Boundary_(ID_bvyaXT3ZOlHqr0etu2LCmg)-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Mon Jul 21 17:31:51 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Diane Rudesal) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:31:51 -0700 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms In-Reply-To: <461CCCFB-716D-4AA1-83D4-9CDA5A30CC7E@optonline.net> References: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461CCCFB-716D-4AA1-83D4-9CDA5A30CC7E@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1216657911.13404.1264580715@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thanks, Lyle. This may sound shallow and stupid, but I absolutely despise crickets, and to my knowledge, since neither of my leos have ever eaten (or probably even seen) a cricket, I think what they don't know they can't miss! I'd gone ahead and ordered some Phoenix Worms before reading either of your posts. Interesting to know they're actually maggots. If they don't work or there's some other problem with them, I'll try the superworms. Do you know by any chance what caused the mealworm shortage? I was raising my own mealworms, but they haven't been doing very well lately and haven't been producing enough to feed my "kids" so I was buying more to supplement. Then this shortage came up. :-( Diane On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400, "Lyle Puente" said: > You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high > percentage of crickets. > I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are > white and very soft. > If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a > bowl or pinch the hind legs. > Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn > worms ) > Lyle > > > Lyle Puente > President > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.org > > http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com > http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned > > > On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: > > Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then. > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said: > > Hi =0), > > I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have > > fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. > > I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. > > Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. > > > > I hope this is helpful. > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > leolover@petml.com writes: > > > > My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all > > know, > > there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had > > anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If > > so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or > > large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that > > gutloading > > is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they > > need to > > be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my > > mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the > > Phoenix > > Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Diane > > -- > > Diane Rudesal > > leolover@petml.com > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Global Gecko Association > > http://www.gekkota.com > > Classifieds > > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > > gecko mailing list > > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > -- > Diane Rudesal > leolover@petml.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Mon Jul 21 17:40:17 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Lyle Puente) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:40:17 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms In-Reply-To: <1216657911.13404.1264580715@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461CCCFB-716D-4AA1-83D4-9CDA5A30CC7E@optonline.net> <1216657911.13404.1264580715@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <830D79AE-146B-4FE4-9E80-88FDFC8D7660@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_J9HA6GbxZcjBPJ+SMNGScQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Diane, I believe this type of shortage happens every summer when it's hot. But, could be something else. On raising your own meal worms. Can you describe the set up? Maybe we can offer some tips for better production. Lyle Lyle Puente President Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.org http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: Thanks, Lyle. This may sound shallow and stupid, but I absolutely despise crickets, and to my knowledge, since neither of my leos have ever eaten (or probably even seen) a cricket, I think what they don't know they can't miss! I'd gone ahead and ordered some Phoenix Worms before reading either of your posts. Interesting to know they're actually maggots. If they don't work or there's some other problem with them, I'll try the superworms. Do you know by any chance what caused the mealworm shortage? I was raising my own mealworms, but they haven't been doing very well lately and haven't been producing enough to feed my "kids" so I was buying more to supplement. Then this shortage came up. :-( Diane On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400, "Lyle Puente" said: > You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high > percentage of crickets. > I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are > white and very soft. > If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a > bowl or pinch the hind legs. > Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn > worms ) > Lyle > > > Lyle Puente > President > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.org > > http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com > http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned > > > On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: > > Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then. > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said: >> Hi =0), >> I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have >> fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. >> I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. >> Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. >> >> I hope this is helpful. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> leolover@petml.com writes: >> >> My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all >> know, >> there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had >> anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe >> substitute? If >> so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or >> large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that >> gutloading >> is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they >> need to >> be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my >> mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the >> Phoenix >> Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Diane >> -- >> Diane Rudesal >> leolover@petml.com >> >> -- >> http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Global Gecko Association >> http://www.gekkota.com >> Classifieds >> http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi >> gecko mailing list >> gecko@lists.gekkota.com >> http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up >> for >> FanHouse Fantasy Football today. >> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > -- > Diane Rudesal > leolover@petml.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. _______________________________________________ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko --Boundary_(ID_J9HA6GbxZcjBPJ+SMNGScQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Diane,
I believe this type of shortage happens every summer when = it's hot.
But, could be something = else.=A0

On raising your own meal worms. Can = you describe the set up?
Maybe we can offer some tips for = better production.

Lyle

On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Diane Rudesal = wrote:

Thanks, Lyle. This may sound shallow and stupid, but = I absolutely
despise crickets, and to my = knowledge, since neither of my leos have
ever = eaten (or probably even seen) a cricket, I think what they = don't
know they can't miss! I'd gone = ahead and ordered some Phoenix Worms
before = reading either of your posts. Interesting to know they're
actually maggots. If they don't work or there's some = other problem with
them, I'll try the = superworms.=A0

Do you = know by any chance what caused the mealworm shortage? I was
raising my own mealworms, but they haven't been = doing very well lately
and haven't been producing = enough to feed my "kids" so I was buying more
to supplement. Then this shortage came up. = :-(

Diane

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 = -0400, "Lyle Puente"
You can also = try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high =A0
I keep bins = of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are =A0
white = and very soft.
If they have trouble learning to = catch crickets you can put them in a =A0
bowl or = pinch the hind legs.
Some of mine like silk = worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn =A0
worms = )
Lyle


Lyle Puente
Global Gecko = Association


On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal = wrote:

Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to = give them a try then.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 = EDT, PISHET@aol.com said:
=
Hi =3D0),
I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I = have
fed her large Pheonix Worms. She = loved them.
I didn't gut load them but I did = dust them.
Evil Neo was happy and I had no = problems.

I hope this is helpful.




In a = message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

My leos=A0 = are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all =A0
there is a=A0 national shortage of them = right now and none can be had
anywhere in = stores=A0 or online. Are = Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If
so, what size = would an=A0 adult leopard = gecko need (small, medium or
large)? Also, = the website=A0 (www.phoenixworm.com) states that = =A0
gutloading
is not = necessary with them --=A0 = is this accurate? And would they =A0
need = to
be dusted with the Repashy Calcium=A0 + ICB, as i've been doing = with my
mealworms, or would that give = them an OD=A0 of calcium, = since the =A0
Phoenix
Worms are = higher in calcium (again, according=A0= to the website)?

Thanks for your help.

--=A0
Diane = Rudesal

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= --Boundary_(ID_J9HA6GbxZcjBPJ+SMNGScQ)-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Tue Jul 22 00:02:50 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (gecko@lists.gekkota.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:02:50 EDT Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms Message-ID: --part1_d4c.26f09fdb.35b66f9a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lyle- Actually, this year's shortage is extraordinary-I've heard there has never been a shortfall of this magnitude. Even big breeders who have huge standing orders are unable to feed their animals. It seems some new employees at one of the largest mealworm suppliers accidently sold off a TON of breeding stock mealworms, and this combined with an unprecedented demand from people feeding bluebirds combined into a kind of "perfect storm", causing the crash. Mealworms aren't likely to be back in ready supply before September, from what I've heard. Brad ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) --part1_d4c.26f09fdb.35b66f9a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lyle-

Actually, this year's shortage is extraordinary-I've heard there has never b= een a shortfall of this magnitude.  Even big breeders who have huge st= anding orders are unable to feed their animals.  It seems some new emp= loyees at one of the largest mealworm suppliers accidently sold off a TON of= breeding stock mealworms, and this combined with an unprecedented demand fr= om people feeding bluebirds combined into a kind of "perfect storm", causing= the crash.  Mealworms aren't likely to be back in ready supply before= September, from what I've heard.

Brad


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(http://w= ww.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000020) --part1_d4c.26f09fdb.35b66f9a_boundary-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Tue Jul 22 20:50:54 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Diane Rudesal) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:50:54 -0700 Subject: [gecko]Phoenix worms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1216756254.5637.1264820681@webmail.messagingengine.com> People feeding bluebirds?! Damn those bluebirds, taking our gecko food! Diane On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:02:50 EDT, BRhaco@aol.com said: > Lyle- > > Actually, this year's shortage is extraordinary-I've heard there has > never > been a shortfall of this magnitude. Even big breeders who have huge > standing > orders are unable to feed their animals. It seems some new employees at > one > of the largest mealworm suppliers accidently sold off a TON of breeding > stock > mealworms, and this combined with an unprecedented demand from people > feeding > bluebirds combined into a kind of "perfect storm", causing the crash. > Mealworms aren't likely to be back in ready supply before September, from > what I've > heard. > > Brad > > > ************** > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Tue Jul 22 21:01:01 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Diane Rudesal) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:01:01 -0700 Subject: [gecko]Mealworm breeding (was Phoenix worms) In-Reply-To: <830D79AE-146B-4FE4-9E80-88FDFC8D7660@optonline.net> References: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461CCCFB-716D-4AA1-83D4-9CDA5A30CC7E@optonline.net> <1216657911.13404.1264580715@webmail.messagingengine.com> <830D79AE-146B-4FE4-9E80-88FDFC8D7660@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1216756861.7371.1264820861@webmail.messagingengine.com> Well, I've been doing pretty much the same thing for years and it worked up until recently, but here goes: I keep them in the kind of plastic bowl that geckos are shipped in, with the holes on the side and in the top. For bedding I've been using bulk oat bran or wheat bran and gutloading them, most recently with the Repashy gutload bought from Julie. I usually use carrot for moisture but have occasionally used apple. When they turn into pupae I move them to a separate bowl with the same type setup except for gutloading and less carrot. I've read that it's recommended to leave the top open, but when I do that the cats get into them, so I keep the lids (with holes in them) closed. I'm now totally out of usable mealworms, although my beetles seem to be active so maybe they're cooperating and making me some more now. However, if you have any suggestions, feel free! Diane On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:40:17 -0400, "Lyle Puente" said: > Hi Diane, > I believe this type of shortage happens every summer when it's hot. > But, could be something else. > > On raising your own meal worms. Can you describe the set up? > Maybe we can offer some tips for better production. > > Lyle > > Lyle Puente > President > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.org > > http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com > http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned > > > On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: > > Thanks, Lyle. This may sound shallow and stupid, but I absolutely > despise crickets, and to my knowledge, since neither of my leos have > ever eaten (or probably even seen) a cricket, I think what they don't > know they can't miss! I'd gone ahead and ordered some Phoenix Worms > before reading either of your posts. Interesting to know they're > actually maggots. If they don't work or there's some other problem with > them, I'll try the superworms. > > Do you know by any chance what caused the mealworm shortage? I was > raising my own mealworms, but they haven't been doing very well lately > and haven't been producing enough to feed my "kids" so I was buying more > to supplement. Then this shortage came up. :-( > > Diane > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400, "Lyle Puente" > said: > > You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high > > percentage of crickets. > > I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are > > white and very soft. > > If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a > > bowl or pinch the hind legs. > > Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn > > worms ) > > Lyle > > > > > > Lyle Puente > > President > > Global Gecko Association > > http://www.gekkota.org > > > > http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com > > http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned > > > > > > On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote: > > > > Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then. > > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, PISHET@aol.com said: > >> Hi =0), > >> I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have > >> fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them. > >> I didn't gut load them but I did dust them. > >> Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems. > >> > >> I hope this is helpful. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > >> leolover@petml.com writes: > >> > >> My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all > >> know, > >> there is a national shortage of them right now and none can be had > >> anywhere in stores or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe > >> substitute? If > >> so, what size would an adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or > >> large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that > >> gutloading > >> is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they > >> need to > >> be dusted with the Repashy Calcium + ICB, as i've been doing with my > >> mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the > >> Phoenix > >> Worms are higher in calcium (again, according to the website)? > >> > >> Thanks for your help. > >> > >> Diane > >> -- > >> Diane Rudesal > >> leolover@petml.com > >> > >> -- > >> http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Global Gecko Association > >> http://www.gekkota.com > >> Classifieds > >> http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > >> gecko mailing list > >> gecko@lists.gekkota.com > >> http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up > >> for > >> FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > >> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > -- > > Diane Rudesal > > leolover@petml.com > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Global Gecko Association > > http://www.gekkota.com > > Classifieds > > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > > gecko mailing list > > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > > > -- > Diane Rudesal > leolover@petml.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Tue Jul 22 23:45:14 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (gecko@lists.gekkota.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:45:14 EDT Subject: [gecko]Mealworm breeding (was Phoenix worms) Message-ID: --part1_c21.2c396f0b.35b7bcfa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've always had the best luck using either chicken laying mash or sow mash for my mealworms. Not only is it nutritious as hell, but also it is fine enough that it is easy to sift out the worms when the time comes! ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) --part1_c21.2c396f0b.35b7bcfa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've always had the best luck using eit= her chicken laying mash or sow mash for my mealworms.  Not only is it=20= nutritious as hell, but also it is fine enough that it is easy to sift out t= he worms when the time comes!


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(http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000= 000020) --part1_c21.2c396f0b.35b7bcfa_boundary-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Wed Jul 23 03:16:31 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Sonya Owings) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:16:31 -0500 Subject: [gecko]Mealworm breeding (was Phoenix worms) In-Reply-To: <1216756861.7371.1264820861@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461CCCFB-716D-4AA1-83D4-9CDA5A30CC7E@optonline.net> <1216657911.13404.1264580715@webmail.messagingengine.com> <830D79AE-146B-4FE4-9E80-88FDFC8D7660@optonline.net> <1216756861.7371.1264820861@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4886947F.1000402@comcast.net> My meal worm colony is doing great for me ....... and my neighbors now too. I have mine in an aquarium. I put chicken mash and sometimes I add some Quick Oats. I then feed them banana peels mostly because they seem to like that best of all. I also put in orange peels and apples. I had a hard time keeping enough, and it was very time consuming, to seperate the worms, larva, and beetles. I leave mine together and they are doing great. For awhile they went in spurts as they were all on the same cycle, but now I have some of each. Hope this helps! From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Wed Jul 23 18:27:39 2008 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Diane Rudesal) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:27:39 -0700 Subject: [gecko]Mealworm breeding (was Phoenix worms) In-Reply-To: <4886947F.1000402@comcast.net> References: <1216570832.9631.1264417689@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461CCCFB-716D-4AA1-83D4-9CDA5A30CC7E@optonline.net> <1216657911.13404.1264580715@webmail.messagingengine.com> <830D79AE-146B-4FE4-9E80-88FDFC8D7660@optonline.net> <1216756861.7371.1264820861@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4886947F.1000402@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1216834059.24502.1264992467@webmail.messagingengine.com> An aquarium, wow. You must keep a lot of them! I don't keep that many at a time (even when they were doing well) and I don't have room for another aquarium/terrarium. But the orange peel idea is interesting, since my husband eats a lot of oranges, as well as maybe keeping them all together, especially until I have an increase in production. Thanks for your input! Diane On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:16:31 -0500, "Sonya Owings" said: > My meal worm colony is doing great for me ....... and my neighbors now > too. I have mine in an aquarium. I put chicken mash and sometimes I > add some Quick Oats. I then feed them banana peels mostly because they > seem to like that best of all. I also put in orange peels and apples. > I had a hard time keeping enough, and it was very time consuming, to > seperate the worms, larva, and beetles. I leave mine together and they > are doing great. For awhile they went in spurts as they were all on the > same cycle, but now I have some of each. Hope this helps! > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko -- Diane Rudesal leolover@petml.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow