[gecko]bacterial infection?

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Hi Sonya ~

How long have they not been eating?  I would return to the paper towel 
substrate at this point because it is much easier to keep clean.  Good to hear that 
these three have been separated till you discover the source of their 
difficulties.

Sounds like a visit to an exotic vet who specializes in reptiles might be in 
order.

Just curious:  What have you been gutloading your crickets or mealworms with? 
 If you have the geckos on sand, you should be using a feeding bowl for their 
crickets and mealworms.

Congratulations on your success with the P grandis!!!

Elizabeth


> Subj:[gecko]bacterial infection?
> Date:9/10/07 8:38:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> From:    sowings2@comcast.net (Sonya Owings)
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> Needing some answers!   I have three of my adult leopards geckos, 2 
> females and 1 male, that have not been eating at all and their tails are 
> getting thin.  We just built a  new rack system and I was having trouble 
> getting the temperature right.  A fellow mentor in the gecko world came 
> over and thought that they may have a bacterial infection.  He had me 
> raise the temperature and put in sand instead of using paper towels.  I 
> have had all of them seperated from each other since the time they 
> stopped eating.  The male was with different females when I seperated 
> him, but they are fine, as are three other leopards and the babies that 
> are all housed in the same rack system.  He had stopped eating when we 
> first bought him, and again another time when we had moved him.  This 
> time though he is getting worse and worse.  I have put in some meal 
> worms with all of them and also crickets with the hind legs taken off.  
> One of the females seems to have eaten a little tonight but will need to 
> go back in and check again later.  Any suggestions? 
> 
> Celebration!  hatchd out our first Grandis a couple weeks ago and 5 more 
> eggs in incubation!
> 
> Thanks much for any advice!
> Sonya
> 
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Elizabeth
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<BR>How long have they not been eating? &nbsp;I would return to the paper to=
wel substrate at this point because it is much easier to keep clean. &nbsp;G=
ood to hear that these three have been separated till you discover the sourc=
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<BR>Sounds like a visit to an exotic vet who specializes in reptiles might b=
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<BR>Just curious: &nbsp;What have you been gutloading your crickets or mealw=
orms with? &nbsp;If you have the geckos on sand, you should be using a feedi=
ng bowl for their crickets and mealworms.
<BR>
<BR>Congratulations on your success with the P grandis!!!
<BR>
<BR>Elizabeth
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<BR>Date:9/10/07 8:38:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
<BR>From: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sowings2@comcast.net (Sonya Owings)
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<BR>Needing some answers! &nbsp;&nbsp;I have three of my adult leopards geck=
os, 2=20
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<BR>are all housed in the same rack system. &nbsp;He had stopped eating when=
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<BR>first bought him, and again another time when we had moved him. &nbsp;Th=
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<BR>time though he is getting worse and worse. &nbsp;I have put in some meal=
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<BR>One of the females seems to have eaten a little tonight but will need to=
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<BR>
<BR>Celebration! &nbsp;hatchd out our first Grandis a couple weeks ago and 5=
 more=20
<BR>eggs in incubation!
<BR>
<BR>Thanks much for any advice!
<BR>Sonya
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