From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sat Jul 7 14:07:04 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (gecko@lists.gekkota.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 06:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [gecko]Your new account password is approved Message-ID: <636655.1142.qm@web83826.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> --0-706766082-1183813624=:1142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Hello, I have been on this list for years, my name is red-eye. I have not been active for at least 2 years. I did not update a password until today 7-8-07. I entered another address for a subscription & expect to delete the subscription deliverdd to this email address. If someone did something to my account before today...it was not I I beleive Julie & Kyle will remember me Regards, red-eye ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Christianson To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:10:15 AM Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved virus do not investigate ----- Original Message ----- From: B K To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved what is this? Burke webmaster@lists.gekkota.com wrote: Dear user gecko, You have successfully updated the password of your Lists account. If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact Lists customer service at: webmaster@lists.gekkota.com Thank you for using Lists! The Lists Support Team +++ Attachment: No Virus (Clean) +++ Lists Antivirus - www.lists.gekkota.com Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup. A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to. -- Granville Hicks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM --0-706766082-1183813624=:1142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ascii
Hello,
I have been on this list for years, my name is red-eye. I have not been active for at least 2 years.
I did not update a password until today 7-8-07. I entered another address for a subscription & expect to delete the subscription deliverdd to this email address. If someone did something to my account before today...it was not I
 
I beleive Julie & Kyle will remember me
Regards,
red-eye


 
----- Original Message ----
From: Pat Christianson <herpnut@urs2.net>
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved

virus do not investigate
----- Original Message -----
From: B K
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved

what is this?
Burke

webmaster@lists.gekkota.com wrote:

Dear user gecko,

You have successfully updated the password of your Lists account.

If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact Lists customer service at: webmaster@lists.gekkota.com

Thank you for using Lists!
The Lists Support Team






+++ Attachment: No Virus (Clean)
+++ Lists Antivirus - www.lists.gekkota.com



Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup.  
 
 
A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to.
-- Granville Hicks                                       

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM

--0-706766082-1183813624=:1142-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sat Jul 7 16:12:35 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Lyle Puente) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Your new account password is approved In-Reply-To: <636655.1142.qm@web83826.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <636655.1142.qm@web83826.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C964D6B-3BE9-4F0C-9DD5-A3B2D6BC0C7C@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_+NDgTz1XNzg57qyEWc3Feg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I remember ya too Red eye, How have you been? On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:07 AM, r_ohle@pacbell.net wrote: Hello, I have been on this list for years, my name is red-eye. I have not been active for at least 2 years. I did not update a password until today 7-8-07. I entered another address for a subscription & expect to delete the subscription deliverdd to this email address. If someone did something to my account before today...it was not I I beleive Julie & Kyle will remember me Regards, red-eye ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Christianson To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:10:15 AM Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved virus do not investigate ----- Original Message ----- From: B K To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved what is this? Burke webmaster@lists.gekkota.com wrote: Dear user gecko, You have successfully updated the password of your Lists account. If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact Lists customer service at: webmaster@lists.gekkota.com Thank you for using Lists! The Lists Support Team +++ Attachment: No Virus (Clean) +++ Lists Antivirus - www.lists.gekkota.com Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup. A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to. -- Granville Hicks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM Lyle Puente http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com --Boundary_(ID_+NDgTz1XNzg57qyEWc3Feg) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I remember ya too Red = eye,
How have you been?


On Jul 7, = 2007, at 9:07 AM, r_ohle@pacbell.net = wrote:

Hello,
I have been on = this list for years, my name is red-eye. I have not been active for at = least 2 years.
I did not update a password until = today 7-8-07. I entered another address for a subscription & expect = to delete the subscription deliverdd to this email address. If someone = did something to my account before today...it was not I
=A0
I beleive = Julie & Kyle will remember me
red-eye


=A0
----- Original = Message ----
From: Pat Christianson <herpnut@urs2.net>
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com=
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is = approved

virus do not = investigate
----- Original Message -----
To:


Dear user gecko, =

You have successfully updated the password of = your Lists account.

If you did not authorize this change or if you = need assistance with your account, please contact Lists customer service = at:
Thank you for using Lists! =
The Lists Support Team






+++ Attachment: No Virus (Clean)
+++ Lists Antivirus - www.lists.gekkota.com

Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are = crunchy and taste good with Ketchup.=A0=A0
=A0
A censor is a man who knows more than he = thinks you ought to.
-- Granville = Hicks=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0


No virus found = in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG = Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: = 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM



Lyle = Puente

Global Gecko = Association

 =

= --Boundary_(ID_+NDgTz1XNzg57qyEWc3Feg)-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sat Jul 7 16:15:50 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (B K) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [gecko]Your new account password is approved In-Reply-To: <8C964D6B-3BE9-4F0C-9DD5-A3B2D6BC0C7C@optonline.net> Message-ID: <589420.4893.qm@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-962528921-1183821350=:4893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is this the tort guy? Burke Lyle Puente wrote: I remember ya too Red eye, How have you been? On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:07 AM, r_ohle@pacbell.net wrote: Hello, I have been on this list for years, my name is red-eye. I have not been active for at least 2 years. I did not update a password until today 7-8-07. I entered another address for a subscription & expect to delete the subscription deliverdd to this email address. If someone did something to my account before today...it was not I I beleive Julie & Kyle will remember me Regards, red-eye ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Christianson To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:10:15 AM Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved virus do not investigate ----- Original Message ----- From: B K To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved what is this? Burke webmaster@lists.gekkota.com wrote: Dear user gecko, You have successfully updated the password of your Lists account. If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact Lists customer service at: webmaster@lists.gekkota.com Thank you for using Lists! The Lists Support Team +++ Attachment: No Virus (Clean) +++ Lists Antivirus - www.lists.gekkota.com Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup. A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to. -- Granville Hicks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM Lyle Puente http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup. A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to. -- Granville Hicks --0-962528921-1183821350=:4893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Is this the tort guy?
Burke

Lyle Puente <lylepuente@optonline.net> wrote:
I remember ya too Red eye,
How have you been?


On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:07 AM, r_ohle@pacbell.net wrote:

Hello,
I have been on this list for years, my name is red-eye. I have not been active for at least 2 years.
I did not update a password until today 7-8-07. I entered another address for a subscription & expect to delete the subscription deliverdd to this email address. If someone did something to my account before today...it was not I
 
I beleive Julie & Kyle will remember me
Regards,
red-eye


 
----- Original Message ----
From: Pat Christianson <herpnut@urs2.net>
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved

virus do not investigate
----- Original Message -----
From: B K
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved

what is this?

Dear user gecko,

You have successfully updated the password of your Lists account.

If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact Lists customer service at: webmaster@lists.gekkota.com

Thank you for using Lists!
The Lists Support Team






+++ Attachment: No Virus (Clean)
+++ Lists Antivirus - www.lists.gekkota.com



Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup.  
 
 
A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to.
-- Granville Hicks                                       


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM







Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup.  
 
 
A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to.
-- Granville Hicks                                       
--0-962528921-1183821350=:4893-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sat Jul 7 17:43:43 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Lyle Puente) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:43:43 -0400 Subject: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 In-Reply-To: <589420.4893.qm@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <589420.4893.qm@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --Boundary_(ID_8/cGAISrqwaWuf2D4ddgaw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat? Mine came today. John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction is perfect! I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really amazing. Lyle Puente Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com My Brothers Banned http://mybrothersbanned.com http://www.myspace.com/mybrothersbanned --Boundary_(ID_8/cGAISrqwaWuf2D4ddgaw) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Has everyone gotten their new = issue of Chit Chat?
Mine came today.

John Rudge's article about = scientific collecting and extinction is perfect!
I also found = Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really = amazing.


Lyle Puente
Global Gecko = Association

My = Brothers Banned
=
=

= --Boundary_(ID_8/cGAISrqwaWuf2D4ddgaw)-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sat Jul 7 19:09:30 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Julie Bergman) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:09:30 -0800 Subject: [gecko]Your new account password is approved In-Reply-To: <8C964D6B-3BE9-4F0C-9DD5-A3B2D6BC0C7C@optonline.net> References: <636655.1142.qm@web83826.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8C964D6B-3BE9-4F0C-9DD5-A3B2D6BC0C7C@optonline.net> Message-ID: <468FD6DA.5070501@davis.com> Greetings old friend!!! Julie B. Lyle Puente wrote: > I remember ya too Red eye, > How have you been? > > > On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:07 AM, r_ohle@pacbell.net > wrote: > > Hello, > I have been on this list for years, my name is red-eye. I have not > been active for at least 2 years. > I did not update a password until today 7-8-07. I entered another > address for a subscription & expect to delete the subscription > deliverdd to this email address. If someone did something to my > account before today...it was not I > > I beleive Julie & Kyle will remember me > Regards, > red-eye > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Pat Christianson > > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved > > virus do not investigate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: B K > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:18 AM > Subject: Re: [gecko]Your new account password is approved > > what is this? > Burke > > webmaster@lists.gekkota.com > wrote: > > > Dear user gecko, > > You have successfully updated the password of your Lists account. > > If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance > with your account, please contact Lists customer service at: > webmaster@lists.gekkota.com > > Thank you for using Lists! > The Lists Support Team > > > > > > > +++ Attachment: No Virus (Clean) > +++ Lists Antivirus - www.lists.gekkota.com > > > > > > Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and > taste good with Ketchup. > > > A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to. > -- Granville Hicks > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: > 6/5/2007 2:38 PM > > > > > Lyle Puente > http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com > http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned > > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > > From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sat Jul 7 21:23:07 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (tony gamble) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <85950.55340.qm@web52702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-1778001170-1183839787=:55340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I got mine, excellent as usual! Tony www.umn.edu/~gambl007 Lyle Puente wrote: Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat?Mine came today. John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction is perfect! I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really amazing. Lyle Puente Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com My Brothers Banned http://mybrothersbanned.com http://www.myspace.com/mybrothersbanned --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. --0-1778001170-1183839787=:55340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I got mine, excellent as usual!
Tony
www.umn.edu/~gambl007

Lyle Puente <lylepuente@optonline.net> wrote:
Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat?
Mine came today.

John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction is perfect!
I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really amazing.


Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. --0-1778001170-1183839787=:55340-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 8 03:43:20 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Bobby Pruett) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:43:20 -0500 Subject: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 In-Reply-To: References: <589420.4893.qm@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B9AD88CB82845AA9D344C1416604E4D@BobbyPruettPC> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C7C0DF.D5F483C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mines a no show so far? Bobby Pruett Arboreals Etc... http://www.arborealsetc.com Rhacodactylus Network http://www.rhacodactylus.net 210-296-4278 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lyle Puente=20 To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat? Mine came today. John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction is = perfect! I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really = amazing. Lyle Puente Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com My Brothers Banned http://mybrothersbanned.com http://www.myspace.com/mybrothersbanned ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C7C0DF.D5F483C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mines a no show so far?
 
Bobby Pruett
Arboreals Etc...
http://www.arborealsetc.com
R= hacodactylus=20 Network
http://www.rhacodactylus.net210-296-4278
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lyle=20 Puente
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 = 11:43=20 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat = #19

Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat?
Mine came today.

John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction = is=20 perfect!
I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really = amazing.


Lyle Puente
Global Gecko Association
http://www.gekkota.com

My Brothers Banned
http://mybrothersbanned.com
http://www.myspace.com/m= ybrothersbanned

------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C7C0DF.D5F483C0-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 8 05:17:40 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (gecko@lists.gekkota.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 00:17:40 EDT Subject: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 Message-ID: --part1_cc4.14d72e0c.33c1bf64_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mine arrived in Seattle on 7/6! Come on everybody, let's join! Elizabeth > Subj:Re: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 > Date:7/7/07 7:43:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time > From: bobbypruett@earthlink.net (Bobby Pruett) > Sender: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com > Reply-to: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > Mines a no show so far? > > Bobby Pruett > Arboreals Etc... > http://www.arborealsetc.com > Rhacodactylus Network > http://www.rhacodactylus.net > 210-296-4278 > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Lyle Puente >> To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com >> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 >> >> Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat? Mine came today. >> >> John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction is perfect! >> I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really amazing. >> >> Lyle Puente >> Global Gecko Association >> http://www.gekkota.com >> >> >> My Brothers Banned >> http://mybrothersbanned.com >> http://www.myspace.com/mybrothersbanned >> >> >> >

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See what's free at http://www.aol.com. --part1_cc4.14d72e0c.33c1bf64_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mine arrived in Se= attle on 7/6!

Come on everybody, let's join!

Elizabeth


Subj:Re: [gecko] Chit Ch= at #19
Date:7/7/07 7:43:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:    bobbypruett@earthlink.net (Bobby Pruett)
Sender:    gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com
Reply-to: gecko@lists.gekkota= .com
To:    gecko@lists.gekkota.com

Mines a no show so far?
=20
Bobby Pruett
Arboreals Etc...
http://www.arborealsetc.com=
Rhacodactylus Network
http://www.rhacodactylus.net
210-296-4278

----- Original Message ----= -=20
From: Lyle Puente= =20
To: gecko@lists.gekkot= a.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat #19

Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat? Mine came today.

John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction is perfe= ct!
I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really amazin= g.

Lyle Puente
Global Gecko Association
http://www.gekkota.com


My Brothers Banned
http://mybrothersbanned.com=
http://www.myspace.c= om/mybrothersbanned



         = ;
     










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See what's fre= e at http://www.aol.com. --part1_cc4.14d72e0c.33c1bf64_boundary-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 8 17:34:26 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (L. Christenson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:34:26 -0500 Subject: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 In-Reply-To: <4B9AD88CB82845AA9D344C1416604E4D@BobbyPruettPC> Message-ID: <008b01c7c17d$d9cef400$1b01a8c0@LLDG.local> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C7C153.F0FB5D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GGA Members: Bobby Pruett: I looked in GGA database and didn't find your name. Help me with details on how and when you joined so I backtrack paperwork. e-mail direct leann @ daygecko.com (remove spaces) J. Capone: Chit Chat returned to me with address update. Will remail. M. Jacobi: Chit Chat returned to me with address update. Will remail. Other member: if there are problems with your membership, do not hesitate to contact me directly. Leann Christenson GGA Membership Chair _____ From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Pruett Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:43 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 Mines a no show so far? Bobby Pruett Arboreals Etc... http://www.arborealsetc.com Rhacodactylus Network http://www.rhacodactylus.net 210-296-4278 ----- Original Message ----- From: Lyle Puente To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat #19 Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat? Mine came today. John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction is perfect! I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really amazing. Lyle Puente Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com My Brothers Banned http://mybrothersbanned.com http://www.myspace.com/mybrothersbanned ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C7C153.F0FB5D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
GGA Members:
 
Bobby Pruett:  I looked in = GGA database and=20 didn't find your name.  Help me with details on how and when you = joined so=20 I backtrack paperwork.  e-mail direct leann @ daygecko.com (remove=20 spaces)
 
J. Capone:  Chit Chat returned to me = with address=20 update.  Will remail.
 
M. Jacobi:  Chit Chat returned to me = with address=20 update.  Will remail.
 
Other member:  if there are problems = with your=20 membership, do not hesitate to contact me directly.
 
Leann Christenson
GGA Membership Chair

From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com=20 [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Bobby=20 Pruett
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:43 PM
To:=20 gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat=20 #19

Mines a no show so far?
 
Bobby Pruett
Arboreals Etc...
http://www.arborealsetc.com
R= hacodactylus=20 Network
http://www.rhacodactylus.net210-296-4278
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lyle=20 Puente
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 = 11:43=20 AM
Subject: Re: [gecko] Chit Chat = #19

Has everyone gotten their new issue of Chit Chat?=20
Mine came today.

John Rudge's article about scientific collecting and extinction = is=20 perfect!
I also found Leann's article on Phelsuma eating vegetables really = amazing.


Lyle Puente
Global Gecko Association
http://www.gekkota.com

My Brothers Banned
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------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C7C153.F0FB5D00-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Mon Jul 9 19:19:07 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (tony gamble) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [gecko]New Gecko Species for 2007 In-Reply-To: <7E70BB9D-7A0E-4902-A1A4-3B2ADE1E5BDA@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <857445.23278.qm@web52709.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-449615795-1184005147=:23278 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just a quick recap on the new gecko species described so far in 2007. Cnemaspis alwisi Cnemaspis kumarasinghei Cnemaspis molligodai Cnemaspis retigalensis Cnemaspis samanalensis L. J. MENDIS WICKRAMASINGHE & D. A. I. MUNINDRADASA. 2007. Review of the genus Cnemaspis Strauch, 1887 (Sauria: Gekkonidae) in Sri Lanka with the description of five new species. Zootaxa 1490: 1–63 Cyrtodactylus cryptus ASTRID HEIDRICH, HERBERT ROSLER, VU NGOC THANH, WOLFGANG BOHME & THOMAS ZIEGLER. 2007, Another new Cyrtodactylus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Phong Nha - Ke Bang National Park, central Truong Son, Vietnam. Zootaxa 1445: 35-48 Cyrtodactylus nigriocularis Cyrtodactylus badenensis. Sang, N. N., N. L. Orlov, & I. S. Darevsky. 2007. Descriptions of two new species of the genus Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Sauria: Gekkonidae) from southern Vietnam. Russian Journal of Herpetology 13: 215-226. Cyrtodactylus serratus Kraus, F. 2007. A new species of Cyrtodactylus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from western Papua New Guinea. Zootaxa 1425: 63-68. Cyrtopodion brachykolon Krysko, K. L., H. Rehman, & K. Auffenberg. 2007. A new species of Cyrtopodion (Gekkonidae: Gekkoninae) from Pakistan. Herpetologica 63: 100-113. Luperosaurus kubli Brown, R. M., A. C. Diesmos, & M. V. Duya. 2007. A new Luperosaurus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from the sierra madre of Luzon island, Philippines. The Raffles Bulletin of Zoology 55: 167-174. Luperosaurus corfieldi Gaulke, M., H. Roesler, & R. M. Brown. 2007. A new species of Luperosaurus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Panay Island, Philippines, with comments on the taxonomic status of Luperosaurus cumingii (Gray, 1845). Copeia 2007: 413-425. Thecadactylus solimoensis Bergmann, P. J. & A. P. Russell. 2007. Systematics and biogeography of the widespread Neotropical gekkonid genus Thecadactylus (Squamata), with the description of a new cryptic species. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 149: 339-370. Tony Gamble www.umn.edu/~gambl007 --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. --0-449615795-1184005147=:23278 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just a quick recap on the new gecko species described so far in 2007.

Cnemaspis alwisi
Cnemaspis kumarasinghei
Cnemaspis molligodai
Cnemaspis retigalensis
Cnemaspis samanalensis
L. J. MENDIS WICKRAMASINGHE & D. A. I. MUNINDRADASA. 2007. Review of the genus Cnemaspis Strauch, 1887 (Sauria: Gekkonidae) in Sri Lanka with the description of five new species. Zootaxa 1490: 1–63

Cyrtodactylus cryptus
ASTRID HEIDRICH, HERBERT ROSLER, VU NGOC THANH, WOLFGANG BOHME & THOMAS ZIEGLER. 2007, Another new Cyrtodactylus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Phong Nha - Ke Bang National Park, central Truong Son, Vietnam. Zootaxa 1445: 35-48

Cyrtodactylus nigriocularis
Cyrtodactylus badenensis.
Sang, N. N., N. L. Orlov, & I. S. Darevsky. 2007. Descriptions of two new species of the genus Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Sauria: Gekkonidae) from southern Vietnam. Russian Journal of Herpetology 13: 215-226.

Cyrtodactylus serratus
Kraus, F. 2007. A new species of Cyrtodactylus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from western Papua New Guinea. Zootaxa 1425: 63-68.

Cyrtopodion brachykolon
Krysko, K. L., H. Rehman, & K. Auffenberg. 2007. A new species of Cyrtopodion (Gekkonidae: Gekkoninae) from Pakistan. Herpetologica 63: 100-113.

Luperosaurus kubli
Brown, R. M., A. C. Diesmos, & M. V. Duya. 2007. A new Luperosaurus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from the sierra madre of Luzon island, Philippines. The Raffles Bulletin of Zoology 55: 167-174.

Luperosaurus corfieldi
Gaulke, M., H. Roesler, & R. M. Brown. 2007. A new species of Luperosaurus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Panay Island, Philippines, with comments on the taxonomic status of Luperosaurus cumingii (Gray, 1845). Copeia 2007: 413-425.

Thecadactylus solimoensis
Bergmann, P. J. & A. P. Russell. 2007. Systematics and biogeography of the widespread Neotropical gekkonid genus Thecadactylus (Squamata), with the description of a new cryptic species. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 149: 339-370.

Tony Gamble
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To the list of new species in 2007: With due respect, it would be even more useful to have such a listing for a complete year. And for some it would help to be told what and when the previous listing was.
Cheers, Yehudah Werner


Yehudah L. Werner
Professor Emeritus of Zoology
Department of Evolution, Systematics and Ecology
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
91904 Jerusalem, Israel
Tel. 972-2-6585874 (direct)
Fax 972-2-6584741 (departmental office)
e-mail yehudah_w@yahoo.com
Home tel./fax 972-2-5665576

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----__JWM__J38ad.744dS.5bb0M-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 06:28:02 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Julie Bergman) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:28:02 -0800 Subject: [gecko]Gecko Ranch Grand Re-opening pix Message-ID: <46A830E2.7090507@davis.com> Since many of you asked for pix, here they are! http://www.geckoranch.com/Grandreopening2007.html Julie B. From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 17:54:47 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Hitchiner, Jim) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:54:47 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7CFA5.ACD90A5B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible "cousin" pair? All are relatively young animals, the "cousins" pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004.=20 Best.... Jim =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7CFA5.ACD90A5B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

I’ve 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to = switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be = 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were = w/c.  Since I understand that this taxon = can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to = break up the possible “cousin” pair? All are relatively young = animals, the “cousins” pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair = were hatched in different months in late 2004.

Best….

Jim

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7CFA5.ACD90A5B-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 18:09:13 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (yehudah werner) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [gecko]gecko winking? Message-ID: <355715.76818.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1211038686-1185469753=:76818 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Does anybody happen to have a close-up photo of a eublepharid gecko eye or head (Coleonyx, Eublepharis, goniurosaurus, Hemitheconyx etc.) that shows some degree of closure of the nictitating membrane? Or relevant observations? (We are trying to review the structure, function and evolution of eyelids iun geckos and other reptiles.) Cheers, Yehudah (Werner) Yehudah_w@yahoo.com Yehudah L. Werner Professor Emeritus of Zoology Department of Evolution, Systematics and Ecology The Hebrew University of Jerusalem 91904 Jerusalem, Israel Tel. 972-2-6585874 (direct) Fax 972-2-6584741 (departmental office) e-mail yehudah_w@yahoo.com Home tel./fax 972-2-5665576 --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. --0-1211038686-1185469753=:76818 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello,
    Does anybody happen to have a close-up photo of a eublepharid gecko eye or  head (Coleonyx, Eublepharis, goniurosaurus, Hemitheconyx etc.) that shows some degree of closure of the nictitating membrane? Or relevant observations? (We are trying to review the structure, function and evolution of eyelids iun geckos and other reptiles.)
    Cheers, Yehudah (Werner)


Yehudah L. Werner
Professor Emeritus of Zoology
Department of Evolution, Systematics and Ecology
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
91904 Jerusalem, Israel
Tel. 972-2-6585874 (direct)
Fax 972-2-6584741 (departmental office)
e-mail yehudah_w@yahoo.com
Home tel./fax 972-2-5665576

Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. --0-1211038686-1185469753=:76818-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 18:08:02 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Chad Osborne) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:08:02 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c7cfa7$86d17330$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7CF85.FFBFD330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How long have they been together? chad -----Original Message----- From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible "cousin" pair? All are relatively young animals, the "cousins" pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best.. Jim __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7CF85.FFBFD330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How long have they been = together?

chad

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] = On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim
Sent: Thursday, July 26, = 2007 12:55 PM
To: = gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders....

 

Hi All,

I’ve 2 pairs of P. = standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out = that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is = completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents = that were w/c.  Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do = any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible “cousin” pair? All are relatively young animals, the “cousins” pair were hatched in different months in early = 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. =

Best….

Jim

 



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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7CF85.FFBFD330-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 18:25:47 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Lyle Puente) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:25:47 -0400 Subject: [gecko]gecko winking? In-Reply-To: <355715.76818.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <355715.76818.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --Boundary_(ID_W3xVTztyUl8gb2msnL/9YQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Greetings Dr. Werner, how high quality? I can take some today and e-mail them with a regular family style camera. My 35 mm would take a few days to get back slides On Jul 26, 2007, at 1:09 PM, yehudah werner wrote: Hello, Does anybody happen to have a close-up photo of a eublepharid gecko eye or head (Coleonyx, Eublepharis, goniurosaurus, Hemitheconyx etc.) that shows some degree of closure of the nictitating membrane? Or relevant observations? (We are trying to review the structure, function and evolution of eyelids iun geckos and other reptiles.) Cheers, Yehudah (Werner) Yehudah_w@yahoo.com Yehudah L. Werner Professor Emeritus of Zoology Department of Evolution, Systematics and Ecology The Hebrew University of Jerusalem 91904 Jerusalem, Israel Tel. 972-2-6585874 (direct) Fax 972-2-6584741 (departmental office) e-mail yehudah_w@yahoo.com Home tel./fax 972-2-5665576 Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Lyle Puente http://www.MyBrothersBanned.com http://www.myspace.com/MyBrothersBanned Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com --Boundary_(ID_W3xVTztyUl8gb2msnL/9YQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Greetings Dr. Werner,
how = high quality?
I can take some today and e-mail them with a = regular family style camera. My 35 mm would take a few days to get back = slides


On Jul 26, = 2007, at 1:09 PM, yehudah werner wrote:

Hello,
=A0=A0=A0 = Does anybody happen to have a close-up photo of a eublepharid gecko eye = or =A0head=A0(Coleonyx, Eublepharis, goniurosaurus, Hemitheconyx etc.) = that shows some degree of closure of the nictitating membrane? Or = relevant observations? (We are trying to review the structure, function = and evolution of eyelids iun geckos and other reptiles.)
=A0=A0= =A0 Cheers, Yehudah (Werner)


Y= ehudah L. Werner
Professor Emeritus of Zoology
Department of = Evolution, Systematics and Ecology
The Hebrew University of = Jerusalem
91904 Jerusalem, Israel
Tel. 972-2-6585874 = (direct)
Fax 972-2-6584741 (departmental office)
e-mail yehudah_w@yahoo.com
Home = tel./fax 972-2-5665576

Looking for a = deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! = FareChase.


= --Boundary_(ID_W3xVTztyUl8gb2msnL/9YQ)-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 18:55:10 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Hitchiner, Jim) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:55:10 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... In-Reply-To: <000301c7cfa7$86d17330$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> References: <000301c7cfa7$86d17330$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7CFAE.1BF9AD64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chad, Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK or?????? =20 Jim ________________________________ From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... =20 How long have they been together? chad =20 -----Original Message----- From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... =20 Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible "cousin" pair? All are relatively young animals, the "cousins" pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004.=20 Best.... Jim =20 __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7CFAE.1BF9AD64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chad,

Each of the pairs has been together = for at least 2 years. I have had = egg production from both. I = have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I = usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you = think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK = or??????

 

Jim

From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com = [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne
Sent: Thursday, July 26, = 2007 1:08 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: = [gecko]Changing established breeders....

 

How long have they been = together?

chad

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: = gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim
Sent: Thursday, July 26, = 2007 12:55 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders....

 

Hi = All,

I’ve 2 pairs of = P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out = that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is = completely unrelated. All 4 of the = animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c.  Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you = foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible = “cousin” pair? All are relatively young animals, the “cousins” pair = were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were = hatched in different months in late 2004.

Best….

Jim

 



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C7CFAE.1BF9AD64-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 19:04:37 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (L. Christenson) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:04:37 -0500 Subject: [gecko]Missing GGA Member In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006301c7cfaf$6e184820$1b01a8c0@LLDG.local> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C7CF85.85424020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a Chit Chat come back from Phillip Herrera. If Phillip is on the list contact me, or if anyone else is in contact with Phillip, have him contact me. Leann GGA Membership ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C7CF85.85424020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had=20 a Chit Chat come back from Phillip Herrera.  If Phillip is on the = list=20 contact me, or if anyone else is in contact with Phillip, have him = contact=20 me.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C7CF85.85424020-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 22:33:58 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Chad Osborne) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:33:58 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001001c7cfcc$ad1326e0$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C7CFAB.260186E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It's more of a wait and see kind of thing. I've had them and replaced one after they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. -----Original Message----- From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... Chad, Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK or?????? Jim _____ From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... How long have they been together? chad -----Original Message----- From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible "cousin" pair? All are relatively young animals, the "cousins" pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best.. Jim __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C7CFAB.260186E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think that would work. They may = not produce this year. It’s more of a wait and see kind of thing. = I’ve had them and replaced one after they had been together 20 years (because = one died) with no problem.

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] = On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim
Sent: Thursday, July 26, = 2007 1:55 PM
To: = gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: = [gecko]Changing established breeders....

 

Chad,

Each of the = pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. = I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, = but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks = before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month = should be OK or??????

 

Jim

From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] = On Behalf Of Chad Osborne
Sent: Thursday, July 26, = 2007 1:08 PM
To: = gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: = [gecko]Changing established breeders....

 

How long have = they been together?

chad

 

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From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] = On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim
Sent: Thursday, July 26, = 2007 12:55 PM
To: = gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders....

 

Hi All,

I’ve 2 pairs of P. = standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out = that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is = completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents = that were w/c.  Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do = any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible “cousin” pair? All are relatively young animals, the “cousins” pair were hatched in different months in early = 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. =

Best….

Jim

 



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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C7CFAB.260186E0-- From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Thu Jul 26 23:43:48 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Julie Bergman) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:43:48 -0800 Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... In-Reply-To: <001001c7cfcc$ad1326e0$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> References: <001001c7cfcc$ad1326e0$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> Message-ID: <46A923A4.9000400@davis.com> You can always try repairings - just observe them closely to make sure there is no sustained aggression. Julie B. Chad Osborne wrote: > I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It’s more of > a wait and see kind of thing. I’ve had them and replaced one after > they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com > [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... > > Chad, > > Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had > egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous > animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original > animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a > reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month > should be OK or?????? > > Jim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com > [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... > > How long have they been together? > > chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com > [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... > > Hi All, > > I’ve 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective > mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, > while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals > have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I > understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a > problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible “cousin” pair? > All are relatively young animals, the “cousins” pair were hatched in > different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in > different months in late 2004. > > Best…. > > Jim > > > > __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Fri Jul 27 12:50:30 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Hitchiner, Jim) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:50:30 -0400 Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... In-Reply-To: <46A923A4.9000400@davis.com> References: <001001c7cfcc$ad1326e0$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> <46A923A4.9000400@davis.com> Message-ID: Thanks Julie and Chad, Fortunately, I have the room to remove the pairs from their larger holding cages and place them each into cages that are roughly the size of 30 gal tanks. In the meantime, I'll replace all props from the breeding cages, scrub down the cages themselves, and wait about 30 days before I place the "new" pairs in them. I'll watch closely for any signs of aggression and we'll see how it goes. Again, thanks for the advice. Best... Jim Jim -----Original Message----- From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Julie Bergman Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:44 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: Re: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... You can always try repairings - just observe them closely to make sure=20 there is no sustained aggression. Julie B. Chad Osborne wrote: > I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It's more of=20 > a wait and see kind of thing. I've had them and replaced one after=20 > they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com=20 > [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... > > Chad, > > Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had=20 > egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous=20 > animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original=20 > animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a=20 > reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month=20 > should be OK or?????? > > Jim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com=20 > [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... > > How long have they been together? > > chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com=20 > [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... > > Hi All, > > I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective=20 > mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins,=20 > while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals=20 > have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I=20 > understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a=20 > problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible "cousin" pair?=20 > All are relatively young animals, the "cousins" pair were hatched in=20 > different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in=20 > different months in late 2004. > > Best.... > > Jim > > > > __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > _______________________________________________ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Fri Jul 27 15:16:38 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Kurt Kaufman) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:16:38 +0000 Subject: [gecko]HTML posts- a suggestion In-Reply-To: <20070727050213.0655D6209B@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: I just checked a recent digest of gecko list posts, and over 85% of the data consists of HTML formatting (which appears as a greatly expanded duplication of the original post in addition to the basic text post). The problem is compounded when the entire message, including the formatting, is quoted in subsequent replies. It would be easier to locate and read messages if participants used the "text-only" setting in their email client to post to the list. -Just a suggestion. Thanks, KK _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!  http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Fri Jul 27 16:07:25 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (Melody Hartley) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:07:25 -0700 Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... In-Reply-To: References: <001001c7cfcc$ad1326e0$78fa4447@osbornecekb5tl> <46A923A4.9000400@davis.com> Message-ID: <46AA0A2D.7040408@ix.netcom.com> Sounds like an excellent plan! Hitchiner, Jim wrote: > Thanks Julie and Chad, > Fortunately, I have the room to remove the pairs from their larger > holding cages and place them each into cages that are roughly the size > of 30 gal tanks. In the meantime, I'll replace all props from the > breeding cages, scrub down the cages themselves, and wait about 30 days > before I place the "new" pairs in them. I'll watch closely for any signs > of aggression and we'll see how it goes. Again, thanks for the advice. > Best... > Jim > > Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com > [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Julie Bergman > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:44 PM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: Re: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... > > You can always try repairings - just observe them closely to make sure > there is no sustained aggression. > > Julie B. > > Chad Osborne wrote: > > >>I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It's more of >>a wait and see kind of thing. I've had them and replaced one after >>they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com >>[mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim >>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM >>To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com >>Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... >> >>Chad, >> >>Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had >>egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous >>animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original >>animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a >>reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month >>should be OK or?????? >> >>Jim >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com >>[mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne >>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM >>To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com >>Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... >> >>How long have they been together? >> >>chad >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com >>[mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim >>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM >>To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com >>Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders.... >> >>Hi All, >> >>I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective >>mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, >>while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals >>have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I >>understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a >>problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible "cousin" pair? >>All are relatively young animals, the "cousins" pair were hatched in >>different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in >>different months in late 2004. >> >>Best.... >> >>Jim >> >> >> >>__________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >>__________ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HeartSong Sanctuary A conservation project for Asian turtles Also day geckos, crested geckos, and frogs http://www.heartsongsanctuary.org/ From gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sun Jul 29 22:08:51 2007 From: gecko@lists.gekkota.com (tony gamble) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [gecko]Watch where you step when you're collecting geckos... In-Reply-To: <857445.23278.qm@web52709.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61173.33188.qm@web52710.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-883279309-1185743331=:33188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gecko hunt ends in death fall http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22153023-2,00.html July 29, 2007 10:11am, Article from: AAP A 21-year-old man who was out in the middle of the night hunting geckos to feed a pet snake has died after falling 45m down a disused sewer shaft in Sydney. The Daceyville man's body was recovered this morning from the former sewerage outlet below a Malabar headland in Sydney's eastern suburbs, police said. Inspector Eddy Bosch said the man and his mate had been out collecting geckos in the area about 2.45am (AEST) today when one of them fell about 45m down the shaft leading to a former sewage outlet. “They have walked past a cement structure which had a door in it,” Insp Bosch told Southern Cross Broadcasting. “One of the fellows has gone through that door and stepped into the structure and has unfortunately stepped into a disused shaft and he's fallen down that shaft.” A report on the man's death will be done for the Coroner. --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-883279309-1185743331=:33188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gecko hunt ends in death fall
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July 29, 2007 10:11am, Article from: AAP
A 21-year-old man who was out in the middle of the night hunting geckos to feed a pet snake has died after falling 45m down a disused sewer shaft in Sydney.
The Daceyville man's body was recovered this morning from the former sewerage outlet below a Malabar headland in Sydney's eastern suburbs, police said.
Inspector Eddy Bosch said the man and his mate had been out collecting geckos in the area about 2.45am (AEST) today when one of them fell about 45m down the shaft leading to a former sewage outlet.
“They have walked past a cement structure which had a door in it,” Insp Bosch told Southern Cross Broadcasting.
“One of the fellows has gone through that door and stepped into the structure and has unfortunately stepped into a disused shaft and he's fallen down that shaft.”
A report on the man's death will be done for the Coroner.

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