[gecko]testing
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Subject: [gecko]RE: gecko digest, Vol 1 #1091 - 4 msgs=C2=A0
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=C2=A0 I hand fed mine babyfood (chicken mixed with a little water and=20
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dust) by using a syringe and putting a dab of it on her face. She=20
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lick off quite a bit. I did eventually have to have her euthanized=C2=A0
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=C2=A0 3. Re: Sick -- probably dying -- gecko (J Aherns)=C2=A0
=C2=A0 4. Re: Sick -- probably dying -- gecko (Leann Christenson)=C2=A0
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:28:40 -0700 (PDT)=C2=A0
Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko=C2=A0
From: Diane@Animail.com=C2=A0
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Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last=C2=A0
night,=C2=A0
even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into the=C2=A0
enclosure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I=C2=A0
found=C2=A0
them regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take=20
her=C2=A0
to=C2=A0
the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local=20
vets=C2=A0
as=C2=A0
far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure today and am=20
waiting=C2=A0
for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back in it. Maybe that=C2=
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will=C2=A0
perk her up a bit -- or not.=C2=A0
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Diane=C2=A0
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> I hand fed two very sick geckos, one leopard and one fat tail. The=C2=A0
best=C2=A0
> way I found to get them to eat is to cut head off of the mealworm,=C2=A0
then=C2=A0
> hold the mealworm body with the open end and some of the guts=20
hanging=C2=A0
out=C2=A0
> in front of the geckos mouth. You can also gently touch the guts to=C2=
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the=C2=A0
> geckos mouth. Both my geckos would then lick their faces and while=C2=A0
they=C2=A0
> were doing that, I would try to slip the meal worm in.=C2=A0
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> ----- Original Message -----=C2=A0
> From: Diane@Animail.com=C2=A0
> Date: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:21 pm=C2=A0
> Subject: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko=C2=A0
> To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com=C2=A0
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>> My older gecko Na?Toth seems to be wasting away. She hasn?t been=C2=A0
>> eatingmany of the mealworms I?ve been feeding her, so I tried=C2=A0
>> crickets. In=C2=A0
>> order to get her to notice them I have to take out all of the=C2=A0
>> furniturefrom her enclosure so it?s just her and the crickets.=C2=A0
>> After a while when=C2=A0
>> she stops eating I put her furniture back so she can go and hide=C2=A0
>> again.She ate several a few days ago but then the next day I found=C2=
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>> regurgitatedcrickets in the enclosure.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0
>> I had the same sort of problem with her a couple of years ago and=C2=A0
>> took her=C2=A0
>> to a vet. At that time the problem turned out to be that the=C2=A0
>> temperaturein her cage wasn?t warm enough. That?s definitely not=C2=A0
>> the case this time.=C2=A0
>> I had to try to force feed her while she was recovering, which was=C2=
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>> a trial=C2=A0
>> because we never could get her to open her mouth ? even the vet=C2=A0
>> couldn?tdo it!=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0
>> She?s been a weird gecko from the beginning. I bought her in a pet=C2=
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>> store(yeah, I know?) and all she?s ever wanted to do is hide.=C2=A0
>> She?s totally=C2=A0
>> different from Sadie, the gecko I bought from Julie, who?s a little=C2=
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>> glutton and has a definite personality. She?s a doll!=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0
>> This might sound cruel, but I?m not sure I want to spend a lot of=C2=A0
>> money or=C2=A0
>> time trying to find out what?s wrong with Na?Toth and then trying=C2=A0
>> to get=C2=A0
>> her better, under the circumstances. I also don?t want her to=20
starve=C2=A0
>> herself to death, because I know that has to be painful. Is it=C2=A0
>> possible to=C2=A0
>> euthanize a gecko like a dog or cat?=C2=A0
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>> Diane=C2=A0
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:18:52 -0500=C2=A0
From: "Jamie A. Stine" <tankdivegirl@gmail.com>=C2=A0
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com=C2=A0
Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko=C2=A0
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uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the first place?=C2=A0
IMHO,=C2=A0
mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for geckos -- they're too=C2=A0
crunchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to digest..=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Anyway, that being said, what does her poop look like? IS she pooping?=C2=
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She could have an impaction from built up chitin from the mealies,=C2=A0
that's=C2=A0
why I'm asking.=C2=A0
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Jamie A. Stine=C2=A0
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On 4/30/06, Diane@animail.com <Diane@animail.com> wrote:=C2=A0
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> Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last=C2=A0
night,=C2=A0
> even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into the=C2=A0
> enclosure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I=C2=
=A0
found=C2=A0
> them regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take=C2=
=A0
her t=3D=C2=A0
o=C2=A0
> the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local=C2=A0
vets a=3D=C2=A0
s=C2=A0
> far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure today and am=C2=A0
waiting=C2=A0
> for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back in it. Maybe=20
that=C2=A0
wil=3D=C2=A0
l=C2=A0
> perk her up a bit -- or not.=C2=A0
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> Diane=C2=A0
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uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the first place?=C2=A0
IM=3D=C2=A0
HO, mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for geckos -- they're=20
too=C2=A0
cru=3D=C2=A0
nchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to=C2=A0
digest..<br><br>Anyway, =3D=C2=A0
that being said, what does her poop look like? IS she=C2=A0
pooping? =3D=C2=A0
She could have an impaction from built up chitin from the mealies,=C2=A0
th=3D=C2=A0
at's why I'm asking.=C2=A0
<br><br>Jamie A. Stine<br><br><div><span class=3D3D"gmail_quote">On=C2=A0
4/30/06, =3D=C2=A0
<b class=3D3D"gmail_sendername"><a=C2=A0
href=3D3D"mailto:Diane@animail.com">Diane@an=3D=C2=A0
imail.com</a></b> <<a=C2=A0
href=3D3D"mailto:Diane@animail.com">Diane@animail.co=3D=C2=A0
m</a>=C2=A0
> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D3D"gmail_quote"=C2=A0
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px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:=C2=
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>Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last=C2=A0
night,<=3D=C2=A0
br>=C2=A0
even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into=C2=A0
the<br>enclo=3D=C2=A0
sure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I=C2=A0
found<br>the=3D=C2=A0
m regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take her=20
to=C2=A0
<br>the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local=C2=
=A0
vets=3D=C2=A0
as<br>far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure=C2=A0
today =3D=C2=A0
and am waiting<br>for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back=20
in=C2=A0
it=3D=C2=A0
. Maybe that will=C2=A0
<br>perk her up a bit -- or=C2=A0
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:03:08 -0700 (PDT)=C2=A0
From: J Aherns <groundgeckofreak@yahoo.com>=C2=A0
Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko=C2=A0
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com=C2=A0
Reply-To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com=C2=A0
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Mealworms are just fine for your geckos.I know many=C2=A0
breeders that only feed them with no problems.You may=C2=A0
want to email goldengategeckos.com for the sluery that=C2=A0
she uses it is great.=C2=A0
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From: "Leann Christenson" <leann@daygecko.com>=C2=A0
To: <gecko@lists.gekkota.com>=C2=A0
Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko=C2=A0
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:18:15 -0500=C2=A0
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One of the parasite that is often looked over by veterinarians is =3D=C2=
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Cryptosporidium . This is because it requires a specific test that=20
most=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
veterinarians do not do in house. It must be specifically requested.=C2=A0
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I mention this because you are describing two of the most common =3D=C2=A0
symptoms - wasting and regurgitation. =3D20=C2=A0
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Regretfully, Crypto is becoming more and more common in the leopard =3D=C2=
=A0
gecko population, especially pet store leopard geckos. Crypto is=20
spread=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
by fecal contact that gets into the mouth. Leopard geckos eat crickets=C2=
=A0
=3D=C2=A0
that walk on the bottom of enclosure. The crickets step into infected=20
=3D=C2=A0
droppings (poop or what ever you call it) and then the gecko eats=20
them.=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
The infected gecko begins to waste away, usually over a long time =3D=C2=
=A0
period, regurgitates its food and finally becomes very weak and dies.=C2=
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Many keepers think Crypto ends in death for any gecko who gets it. =3D=C2=
=A0
However, in a number of instances, the gecko can survive. Through=20
strict=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
quarantine, keeping the gecko's enclosure very clean (remove fecal =3D=C2=
=A0
matter the minute you see it), providing easy to digest food, and=20
treat=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
other symptoms can a gecko have a chance of survival. Quarantine is =3D=C2=
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also very important in order to keep Crypto from spreading to any=20
other=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
geckos in your collection. =3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0
There is so much to say about Crypto. I am not a vet and cannot say =3D=C2=
=A0
that your gecko has this, but because of the rising incidence of=20
Crypto,=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
it should be considered. Whether or not you decide to test for Crypto,=C2=
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=3D=C2=A0
take all precautions just in case it is. =3D20=C2=A0
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If you would like more information about Crypo, how to nursed the sick=20
=3D=C2=A0
gecko, or necessary quarantine practices to safeguard other geckos, I=20
=3D=C2=A0
would be glad to share more.=C2=A0
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Leann Christenson=C2=A0
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=C2=A0----- Original Message -----=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0From: Jamie A. Stine=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:18 PM=C2=A0
=C2=A0Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko=C2=A0
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=C2=A0uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the first place?=20=
=3D=C2=A0
IMHO, mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for geckos -- they're=20
=3D=C2=A0
too crunchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to digest..=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0Anyway, that being said, what does her poop look like? IS she =3D=C2=
=A0
pooping? She could have an impaction from built up chitin from the =3D=C2=
=A0
mealies, that's why I'm asking.=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0Jamie A. Stine=C2=A0
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=C2=A0On 4/30/06, Diane@animail.com <Diane@animail.com > wrote:=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0 Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last=20=
=3D=C2=A0
night,=C2=A0
=C2=A0 even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into the=
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 enclosure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I=
=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
found=C2=A0
=C2=A0 them regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take=
=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
her to=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0 the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local=20=
=3D=C2=A0
vets as=C2=A0
=C2=A0 far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure today and am =3D=
=C2=A0
waiting=C2=A0
=C2=A0 for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back in it. Maybe=20=
=3D=C2=A0
that will=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0 perk her up a bit -- or not.=C2=A0
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=C2=A0 Diane=C2=A0
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>One of the parasite that is often =3D=
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veterinarians is Cryptosporidium . This is because it requires a =3D=C2=A0
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I mention this because you are =3D=C2=
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Regretfully, Crypto is becoming more=20
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and more=3D20=C2=A0
common in the leopard gecko population, especially pet =3D=C2=A0
store leopard=3D20=C2=A0
geckos. Crypto is spread by fecal contact that gets into the =3D=C2=A0
mouth. =3D20=C2=A0
Leopard geckos eat crickets that walk on the bottom of enclosure.=C2=A0
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The=3D20=C2=A0
crickets step into infected droppings (poop or what ever you =3D=C2=A0
call=3D20=C2=A0
it) and then the gecko eats them. The infected gecko =3D=C2=A0
begins to=3D20=C2=A0
waste away, usually over a long time period, regurgitates its food and=20
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becomes very weak and dies. </FONT></DIV>=C2=A0
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>=C2=A0
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Many keepers think Crypto ends=C2=A0
in=3D20=C2=A0
death for any gecko who gets it. However, in a number of =3D=C2=A0
instances,=3D20=C2=A0
the gecko can survive. </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Through =3D=
=C2=A0
strict=3D20=C2=A0
quarantine, keeping the gecko's enclosure very clean (remove fecal =3D=C2=
=A0
matter the=3D20=C2=A0
minute you see it), providing easy to digest food, and treat other =3D=C2=
=A0
symptoms can=3D20=C2=A0
a gecko have a chance of survival. Quarantine is also very =3D=C2=A0
important in=3D20=C2=A0
order to keep Crypto from spreading to any other geckos in your=3D20=C2=A0
collection. </FONT></DIV>=C2=A0
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>=C2=A0
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>There is so much to say about =3D=C2=
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Crypto. I am=3D20=C2=A0
not a vet and cannot say that your gecko has this, but because of the=20
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rising=3D20=C2=A0
incidence of Crypto, it should be considered. Whether or =3D=C2=A0
not you=3D20=C2=A0
decide to test for Crypto, take all precautions just in case it =3D=C2=A0
is. =3D20=C2=A0
</FONT></DIV>=C2=A0
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about Crypo, how=3D20=C2=A0
to nursed the sick gecko, or necessary quarantine practices to=20
safeguard=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
other=3D20=C2=A0
geckos, I would be glad to share more.</FONT></DIV>=C2=A0
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=C2=A0<A title=3D3Dtankdivegirl@gmail.com =3D=C2=A0
href=3D3D"mailto:tankdivegirl@gmail.com">Jamie A.=3D20=C2=A0
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=C2=A0<DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [gecko]Sick --=20=
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probably=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0dying -- gecko</DIV>=C2=A0
=C2=A0<DIV><BR></DIV>uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the=
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first=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0place? IMHO, mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for =3D=C2=A0
geckos --=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0they're too crunchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to=3D20=C2=
=A0
=C2=A0digest..<BR><BR>Anyway, that being said, what does her poop look =3D=
=C2=A0
like? =3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0IS she pooping? She could have an impaction from built up=C2=A0
=3D=C2=A0
chitin=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0from the mealies, that's why I'm asking. <BR><BR>Jamie A. =3D=C2=A0
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=C2=A0<DIV><SPAN class=3D3Dgmail_quote>On 4/30/06, <B =3D=C2=A0
class=3D3Dgmail_sendername><A=3D20=C2=A0
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rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Thanks=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0 for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last =3D=C2=
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night,<BR>even=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0 without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into =3D=C2=A0
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=C2=A0 in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I =3D=C2=A0
found<BR>them=3D20=C2=A0
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today=3D20=C2=A0
=C2=A0 and am waiting<BR>for her furniture to dry off to put it and her=20=
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back in it.=3D20=C2=A0
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