[gecko]sick Uroplatus henkeli

[Julie Bergman]

I've got the info on Susan's new company, please e-mail me privately for it.

Julie B.

Neil Meister wrote:

> Hi Jared,
>
> Extra Ca (snails, or oral with a dropper) will usually prevent crashes.
> I haven't used UV for a few years, it might help, but if you're dusting
> with something with D3, it doesn't seem necessary.
>
> The enterals that Susan Donaghue used to sell are great for breeding
> Uroplatus. I think they are available through a new company, but I don't
> have contact info at hand.
>
> 5 months is quite long for incubation. Most hatch in 90-120 days. at 
> 68-77F.
> What are your temperatures? I'm curious to know how cool they will
> incubate.
>
> Neil
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> Neil Meister
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> On 20-Aug-06, at 7:11 PM, Jared Morris wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the kind words and thought Elizibeth, Julie, Neil, and
>     everyone.  As far as the other 1.1 go, they are looking great.  I
>     am keeping them together still (under a much more watchfull eye,
>     but upping the surviving female's Ca intake juyst to be safe.  I
>     am also replacing the UV lights, and adding some Miner-all 0. 
>     Miner-all 0, since it does not contain D3, because I already
>     supply UV and I supplement with Rep-Cal Ca+D3 intermittently with
>     pure CaCO3).  It is kind of a bitter-sweet irony that the day I
>     began to see the female go down hill, her first egg hatched...
>     after over 5 months incubating!  That baby is doing well.
>
>     On Aug 20, 2006, at 12:52 PM, ElizabethFreer@aol.com wrote:
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>         Jared ~
>
>         I, too, am very sorry about the passing of your female Uro.
>         The pain, at least when my geckos die, seems greater the
>         longer one has had the gecko, but, nonetheless, it still hurts.
>
>         It seems like she left a little one behind for you and other
>         eggs ;-} No doubt, as vigilant with supplementation as you
>         have been, some of your techniques may change. (Neil are you
>         there?) Each of us can learn from improved husbandry
>         recommendations!
>
>         Any news on how your remaining 1.1 are doing?
>
>         So sorry,
>         Elizabeth
>
>             Jared,
>
>             Uros are really tricky, especially when they decline in
>             health. Sorry
>             about your loss. You can use her death to better the rest
>             of your Uros
>             though, so it is not in vain.
>
>             Julie B.
>
>             Jared Morris wrote:
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>             > Your message made it, Neil, Unfortunately, my gecko did
>             not. She was
>             > looking pretty good for the last two nights, and was
>             taking babyfood/
>             > Ca by dropper, but this morning I found her dead on the
>             floor of her
>             > cage. That is one seriously painful lesson learned on my
>             part. God
>             > I feel awful.
>             >
>             > On Aug 19, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Neil Meister wrote:
>             >
>             >> Hi Jared,
>             >>
>             >> I hope this gets through, I haven't had much luck
>             posting lately.
>             >>
>             >> You're on the right track. If you have only been
>             dusting insects and
>             >> she has been laying eggs, she is far most likely to be
>             hypo.
>             >> I've seen the symptoms you described in several Uroplatus.
>             >> Often they will come around with diligent oral Ca
>             supplementation.
>             >> Usually they will start to feed on their own if they
>             start to recover.
>             >> I'd recommend feeding a liquid diet with a dropper to
>             start with over
>             >> force feeding. It takes patience, but is still easier
>             on you and the
>             >> gecko.
>             >> Often you can drip liquids on their snout and
>             eventually they will
>             >> start to lick
>             >> it off.
>             >>
>             >> Neil
>             >>
>             >>
>             >> On 16-Aug-06, at 7:52 PM, Jared Morris wrote:
>             >>
>             >>>
>             >>> So, I'm going to continue oral calcium and vitamin
>             supplements,
>             >>> keep her well hydrated and fed (assuming she'll eat on
>             her own - I
>             >>> hate the idea of tube feeding, but I have done it on
>             Uromastyx and
>             >>> Cordylus species on a few occasions with good results.
>             And above
>             >>> all, I'll keep my hopes up - please do the same for
>             me, and I'll
>             >>> keep you all updated with her condition.
>             >>>
>             >>> Thanks everyone, for all your help and support.
>             >>>
>             >>> Jared
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