[gecko]Phelsuma general Q

[Emmanuel Van Heygen]

Hi Peter,

I actually have to disagree with you. Phelsuma mutabilis and Phelsuma
breviceps are not even close related. If you compare the scales on the troat
and the sub- and supralabialia you will notice a huge difference.

-Emmanuel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Mudde" <peter@palmblad.nl>
To: <gecko@lists.gekkota.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: [gecko]Phelsuma general Q


> Well, actually
> If you have a good look at this Phelsuma ocellata it really is a Phelsuma,
> close to mutabilis and breviceps. IF  and only If anyone want to split
them,
> mutabilis and breviceps should be in the same genus. (having about 6 or 8
> scansors under forth toe, about the same amount of scales between the
> eyerings, having flat, juxtaposed scales and a couple of other characters
I
> cannot recall right now..) (Damn, I definitely should have published my
> thesis... I had it send to Dactylus a few years ago but...)
>
> Peter Mudde
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com
> [mailto:gecko-admin@lists.gekkota.com]Namens Emmanuel Van Heygen
> Verzonden: donderdag 16 januari 2003 18:34
> Aan: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [gecko]Phelsuma general Q
>
>
> Dear Ron,
>
> The Namaqua-Day Gecko was originally described as Rhoptropus ocellatus,
> shortly after became Phelsuma and was then in 1937 installed as the single
> species genus Rhoptropella. In 1977 it became again Phelsuma  and was
again
> re-classified ad Rhoptropella by Beate Rll in 1999 (Zoology 102, 50-60).
>
> Note that many subspecies have been eliminated, especially in the 'former'
> abbotti-group form Seychelles.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Emmanuel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Rronster@aol.com>
> To: <gecko@lists.gekkota.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [gecko]Phelsuma general Q
>
>
> > Regarding Phelsuma,
> >     This genus seems to be in a state of constant revision. I count 40
> > species with 36 subspecies, including Phelusma (Rhoptropella) ocellata.
> They
> > range from south eastern Africa, including some of the coastal islands,
> > Madagascar, the Seychelle Islands, the Comoro Islands, all the way to
the
> > Andaman Islands near India.
> >
> >     Emmanuel, I'm curious to know who reclassified Ocellata from
Phelsuma
> > back to Rhoptropella, do you know what reference?
> >
> > Ron Van Heest
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